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MD state law requires ALL vehicles over 10M # to enter weigh stations according to this irv2.com thread.

If it is actually true, even though weigh masters presently ignore that law, the steep fines for bypassing a weigh station would be more than an annoyance. Only the last 3-4 pages contain any proof of the wording of that law. I had adamantly declared it was not true, apparently I was wrong. 

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With all due respect that thread didn't reach any real conclusion than have any of the dozens of similar thread over the past several years.  

As someone who lived and owned RV's in Maryland for many years and who still goes back to visit family, I can say that I've never stopped at a MD weigh station nor have I ever seen any RV stop there.  No one has every bothered me about not having stopped.

I think the MD law is poorly written but that doesn't make the MD folks responsible for enforcing it any more interested in weighing RV's than those in other states.

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2 hours ago, docj said:

With all due respect that thread didn't reach any real conclusion than have any of the dozens of similar thread over the past several years.  

As someone who lived and owned RV's in Maryland for many years and who still goes back to visit family, I can say that I've never stopped at a MD weigh station nor have I ever seen any RV stop there.  No one has every bothered me about not having stopped.

I think the MD law is poorly written but that doesn't make the MD folks responsible for enforcing it any more interested in weighing RV's than those in other states.

I’m with Doc.  I lived in MD all my life until I started full timing almost 4 years ago.  And I go back to visit family at least once a year. I have never pulled into a weigh station.  If they wanted RVs to stop I would imagine that they would have some signage for that.

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I did run my rig into the scale on Rt1 up near Pa. Guy with stripes came out & asked what I was doing here. I said "If you chased me down & asked if I knew what ALL meant, I would have no answer" He said "Don't come into a scale again"

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Live in MD and have never ever considered entering a weigh station in MD or anywhere else.  Begs the question:  Are there any states that require RVs go through their weigh stations??

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11 minutes ago, JohnM said:

 Are there any states that require RVs go through their weigh stations??

I thought they all did if they're being towed commercially.

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25 minutes ago, chirakawa said:

I thought they all did if they're being towed commercially.

That's the same rationale that is used for why, for example, a MH used as a mobile medical clinic is considered a commercial vehicle and requires a CDL to drive.  We had this issue in TX with a clinic that we do volunteer work for.  

RV's for personal use are exempt from some applicable laws, no doubt due to the lobbying efforts of the RV industry.

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25 minutes ago, docj said:

That's the same rationale that is used for why, for example, a MH used as a mobile medical clinic is considered a commercial vehicle and requires a CDL to drive.  We had this issue in TX with a clinic that we do volunteer work for.  

RV's for personal use are exempt from some applicable laws, no doubt due to the lobbying efforts of the RV industry.

I wasn't using any particular rationale.  I just thought that all those RV's being towed from factory to dealer and from dealer to customer had to stop at weigh stations.

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Do you understand the difference between IN COMMERCE and personal use?  The MH being towed would be in the weight area BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL TOW TRUCK DOING BUSINESS PULLING THE MH.

 I’m sorry for being strident, but what is so difficult about understanding personal use versus COMMERCIAL use?

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2 hours ago, JohnM said:

Are there any states that require RVs go through their weigh stations?? 

 

38 minutes ago, Barbaraok said:

Do you understand the difference between IN COMMERCE and personal use?  The MH being towed would be in the weight area BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL TOW TRUCK DOING BUSINESS PULLING THE MH.

 I’m sorry for being strident, but what is so difficult about understanding personal use versus COMMERCIAL use?

I understand it totally and 100%.  There's nothing difficult about it.  I was simply answering a very simple question with a very simple answer.  JohnM didn't mention personal use or commercial use.  You seem to be the one who has the comprehension problem.

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15 minutes ago, chirakawa said:

 

I understand it totally and 100%.  There's nothing difficult about it.  I was simply answering a very simple question with a very simple answer.  JohnM didn't mention personal use or commercial use.  You seem to be the one who has the comprehension problem.

So why did you put forth an example where MH are cargo?  It wouldn’t matter what the load was, MH or Widgits, they are just CARGO being pulled by commercial truck.  I didn’t read JohnM’s question to be about cargo.

There are cases of MH Having to go through when they are being used in commercial applications, ie pulling trailers full of race equipment, or the example that Joel gave where it is a COMMERCIAL vehicle.  

 

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14 minutes ago, Barbaraok said:

So why did you put forth an example where MH are cargo?  It wouldn’t matter what the load was, MH or Widgits, they are just CARGO being pulled by commercial truck.  I didn’t read JohnM’s question to be about cargo.

There are cases of MH Having to go through when they are being used in commercial applications, ie pulling trailers full of race equipment, or the example that Joel gave where it is a COMMERCIAL vehicle.  

 

He asked if there were any States which required an RV to enter the weigh stations.  I gave him an example of when all States would.  My RV was delivered from the factory in Indiana to the dealer in Texas.  The transporter had to enter every weigh station along the way.

Please quote any post in this thread where I mentioned motorhomes.  I did not specify motorhomes.  I don't know about motorhomes.  Maybe someone else knows.  If a motorhome is being delivered from the factory to the dealer, do they have to enter weigh stations?  I would think that they do since they are commercial drivers.

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Don't shoot the messenger_. I was simply pointing out that thread. I had argued he was wrong, as did many others. Then the copy N paste letters from MD toll authority appeared, as well as word of mouth from MD state troopers contradicting the letters.

They'll have to chase me down; I ain't pullin in until a test case arises where an actual fine was paid; perhaps me.😈

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21 hours ago, docj said:

RV's for personal use are exempt from some applicable laws, no doubt due to the lobbying efforts of the RV industry.

What I find interesting is that a friend who drives motorhomes to deliver them from manufacturer to dealer and from one dealer location to another has told me that most states do require the "in transit" motorhomes and trailers for sale to stop at the port of entry. She got a ticket for not having done so in two different states. 

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On 1/11/2019 at 5:18 PM, docj said:

With all due respect that thread didn't reach any real conclusion than have any of the dozens of similar thread over the past several years.  

As someone who lived and owned RV's in Maryland for many years and who still goes back to visit family, I can say that I've never stopped at a MD weigh station nor have I ever seen any RV stop there.  No one has every bothered me about not having stopped.

I think the MD law is poorly written but that doesn't make the MD folks responsible for enforcing it any more interested in weighing RV's than those in other states.

I agree Docj,, it's akin to jaywalking laws, they are legal, however not normally enforced. The possibility does exist for a MH driver to be stopped for speeding, gets lippy_and a ticket for bypassing a weigh station. Would that be selective enforcement- yes, however staying around for court dates and expense of a lawyer would be a consideration.

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