SuiteSuccess Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Went over to drive truck today. Started fine, shifted into 2nd as usual then service light came on, tell tale said “check transmission ecu at next stop”. Truck went into limp mode, would not get above 1000 rpms and would not shift automatically or even go into manual mode. Limped back to storage facility, reset fault still no shift into neutral. Finally had to shut down in 2nd. Waited 15 secs turned key back on code reappeared without truck running, reset code and was able to shift into neutral then into R1 and park. Had to repeat procedure to get back to N after shutting down in Reverse. Here are the displays. Sorry put one pic up top. Wondering if sensor bad? Any help? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Time to test the batteries. Check the grounds, too. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 That’s the plan for tomorrow Darryl. That just popped into my head as a possible culprit. Thanks for the reminder. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Output speed sensor is a known weak spot on the UltraShift... always carry a spare to keep out of trouble. Remove the plug and clean it up. How do you keep your batteries charged while in storage? Did you notice your voltage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, DesertMiner said: Output speed sensor is a known weak spot on the UltraShift... always carry a spare to keep out of trouble. Remove the plug and clean it up. How do you keep your batteries charged while in storage? Did you notice your voltage? Remind me where to find the sensor. I have a Xantrex Freedom 1800 HF Inverter/ Charger that I keep plugged in all the time when at the storage facility. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 http://www.roadranger.com/ecm/groups/public/@pub/@eaton/@roadranger/documents/content/rr_rto-16910b-dm2.pdf Item 34, page 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, DesertMiner said: http://www.roadranger.com/ecm/groups/public/@pub/@eaton/@roadranger/documents/content/rr_rto-16910b-dm2.pdf Item 34, page 44 Thanks so much. If I recall this sensor is accessed by removing the floor plate and is on top of the transmission? Or is it on the rear? on edit. Found it here.http://www.roadranger.com/ecm/groups/public/@pub/@eaton/@roadranger/documents/content/trsm0940en-us.pdf Is this pretty easy to access and is any reprogramming necessary after a new one is installed? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 There are 3 speed sensors on the Ultrashift all the same part number. There are two on top and the output one is at the rear of the transmission near the yolk and can be accessed from underneath. On mine there was a couple of mounting locations for the output sensor which was handy as we never got the original out. So far I’ve changed two of the three and the local Volvo always has a few in stock so it must be a common problem. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Nigel said: There are 3 speed sensors on the Ultrashift all the same part number. There are two on top and the output one is at the rear of the transmission near the yolk and can be accessed from underneath. On mine there was a couple of mounting locations for the output sensor which was handy as we never got the original out. So far I’ve changed two of the three and the local Volvo always has a few in stock so it must be a common problem. Nigel Thanks Nigel. Hope you’re still doing well. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Carl, this sensor is used in 2 places. One is on top of the tranny as an input shaft speed sensor and the other is on the rear tailpiece as a output shaft speed sensor. I had to replace my input shaft speed sensor when the tranny would not shift into gear at all. Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 OOPS, I see the sensor is used in 3 places........... Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Make sure you verify you have the 2 pin version of the sensor. Some were also a 3 pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsedlak Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 This sensor was my first thought too. They were on the pricey side (about $350 each from Volvo) so I bought one and replaced it. Didn't make much difference, so I put it back and swapped out with another. I ended up replacing both because I thought it made enough a difference to be worth it. They were all easy to replace. Maybe 15 minutes each. The actual culprit for me though was the throttle position sensor on the accelerator pedal. ** it just dawned on me that I have a Freedomline transmission. But you might find some value in my experience anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 I protect my batteries during extended parking by disconnecting them. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 But lead acid batteries discharge still disconnected. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Yes correct Glenn but all loads are gone so takes a long time - a guy could connect a small maintainer solar panel to them maybe? "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, noteven said: Yes correct Glenn but all loads are gone so takes a long time - a guy could connect a small maintainer solar panel to them maybe? I need to do just that. Most times I have to park in over flow area and no power for charger. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Update: Got new sensor. Of course everything rusty so had soaked overnight in PB Blaster. Bracket screw came out with some effort. Carefully tried to twist out old sensor and top half basically crumbled in my hand. Could tell from rust in top it was probably already cracked allowing water to get in and leading to failure. There are two other ports (which could be used) protected with plastic stoppers which were rusted in also so didn’t fight them with risk of breaking them also. So now have half of sensor still down in hole. Called on my smart friend Charlie and going to make a “puller” with a lag screw, socket, and some washers. Wish me luck. Can’t get a drill in to drill it out, plus don’t want debris down in transmission. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Carl, you may have to drill a hole in the middle of the broken sensor to get the lag screw to bite into it. Mine came out as several pieces. The procedure I used was successful but time consuming and stressful. My hope would be that someone knows a better procedure to remove the remains of the sensor. I will try to send some good vibes in your direction. Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, sclord2002 said: Carl, you may have to drill a hole in the middle of the broken sensor to get the lag screw to bite into it. Mine came out as several pieces. The procedure I used was successful but time consuming and stressful. My hope would be that someone knows a better procedure to remove the remains of the sensor. I will try to send some good vibes in your direction. Charlie Yeah, gonna take your advice and hand drill with “T” handle I have from an old tap and die set. Wonder if an “Ease Out” would grab enough to work it out? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 good soaking and a left hand drill bit works too, 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Carl, I have a 90 deg drill and left handed bits that will probably work plus a bunch of different pullers. I will be back your way for a key soon and can bring them then if that would help. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 8 hours ago, GeorgiaHybrid said: Carl, I have a 90 deg drill and left handed bits that will probably work plus a bunch of different pullers. I will be back your way for a key soon and can bring them then if that would help. David, I’m going to look at it again today. I’ll call you later and let you know. Thanks buddy. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Grease on drill bit if you have to drill into tranny. Helps capture debris Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Insert an expanding concrete anchor. Tighten it up to expand it. Place or make a puller for the expanded anchor. Pull it out. I saw a video where they used this method for pulling out a bearing. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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