Toilet paper...

[colddog15]

We use the old boating adage 'if it doesn't go thru your body it doesn't go in the toilet'.  

We use whatever paper feels good then toss it in a devoted trash bucket. 

Also we have never used chemicals in the black tank - maybe a bit of dish soap now and again.   A good washing out once and awhile works great for us.

 

[Pat & Pete]

1 hour ago, colddog15 said:

We use the old boating adage 'if it doesn't go thru your body it doesn't go in the toilet'.  

We use whatever paper feels good then toss it in a devoted trash bucket. 

Also we have never used chemicals in the black tank - maybe a bit of dish soap now and again.   A good washing out once and awhile works great for us.

 

No thanks . I can't undo the imagination of the odor ...

[sandsys]

3 hours ago, Pat & Pete said:

No thanks . I can't undo the imagination of the odor ...

A zip-top bag instead of a bucket works well.

Linda Sand

[Pat & Pete]

2 hours ago, sandsys said:

A zip-top bag instead of a bucket works well.

Linda Sand

Down the tube works better yet .  No muss , no fuss .

[sandsys]

29 minutes ago, Pat & Pete said:

Down the tube works better yet .  No muss , no fuss .

Whether or not "down the tube" works better depends on the size of your tank. If you have to dump twice a week using the "down the tube method" do you think that is better? I preferred the "use a bag but dump less often" method since I had to pack up to move to the dump then sit in the line at La Posa South each time. Like most other things relating to RVing, there is no ONE right way to do this either.

Linda Sand

[Kirk W]

This subject is beginning to stink!          😄

[Pat & Pete]

12 minutes ago, sandsys said:

Whether or not "down the tube" works better depends on the size of your tank. If you have to dump twice a week using the "down the tube method" do you think that is better? I preferred the "use a bag but dump less often" method since I had to pack up to move to the dump then sit in the line at La Posa South each time. Like most other things relating to RVing, there is no ONE right way to do this either.

Linda Sand

Of course , what you said is true . 

It was our choice to buy a large black tank so we wouldn't have 'worry' . 

I have to ask , exactly how much room does TP take in any black tank ?

And , like Kirk suggests , this is a rather odoriferous thread . LOL

[OregonJim]

Funny thing about the Internet - if you ask a question, you'll eventually get every possible answer, from the best to the worst.

 

Kinda like a modern day equivalent to the magic 8-ball...

 

[oldcodger]

We have been using Kirkland (Costco) brand almost six years with never a problem. Also use Sea-Zyme in the black and galley tanks. Seems to help with odors.

Dave

[Ray,IN]

Use 1 square of whatever tissue trips your trigger. Poke your finger through it, wipe, pull tissue off finger to clean. Problem solved.

For those squeamish about putting TP in the trash, don't ever go to Mexico, even walk across the border to shop.

[sandsys]

3 minutes ago, Ray,IN said:

For those squeamish about putting TP in the trash, don't ever go to Mexico, even walk across the border to shop.

Also, don't go to many Asian or Middle Eastern countries.

[FL-JOE]

While it is true that there are many countries, Asian included, where there exists less than sanitary conditions for "dropping the boys off at the pool", in this county in today's RV world everything that comes out of your body from the waste down should be going in the black tank, along with whatever you decide is a good toilet paper.  Anything less is a personal choice and not the norm.

I had an uncle Sam once who paid for all my clothing, fed me, taught me to dig a cat hole for doing my business in, but does that mean that 45 to 50 years later I would still use that part of my training?

[mptjelgin]

1 hour ago, FL-JOE said:

Anything less is a personal choice and not the norm.

But your "norm" isn't necessarily someone else's norm.

We've traveled to many Central and South American countries, and the "norm" there is that TP goes into the trash can.  For folks who have never done it, it seems gross (i.e. "...the imagination of the odor."), but it is a simple and effective way to reduce solids going into a holding tank, septic tank, etc.  And in our experience, not gross or smelly at all. 

[colddog15]

<smile> Over the years I have found the most common topic and the more varied opinions on RV's revolve  around the use, cleaning and upkeep of black tanks and when to replace tires.  

To each their own .......

[FL-JOE]

11 minutes ago, mptjelgin said:

But your "norm" isn't necessarily someone else's norm.

We've traveled to many Central and South American countries, and the "norm" there is that TP goes into the trash can.  For folks who have never done it, it seems gross (i.e. "...the imagination of the odor."), but it is a simple and effective way to reduce solids going into a holding tank, septic tank, etc.  And in our experience, not gross or smelly at all. 

That may very well be the norm in those countries, I know when I was in Viet Nam it was normal to see folks dumping right on the side of the road.  It is not normal behavior in this country my friend.  If you have a good working holding tank then there is no reason why you need to reduce solids going into it.

[sandsys]

6 hours ago, FL-JOE said:

 If you have a good working holding tank then there is no reason why you need to reduce solids going into it.

Define "good", please. Our first motorhome had a 9 gallon, working, black tank for the use of two people. Would you find that to be good with no reason to reduce solids going into it?

BTW, 9-10 gallon is normal for class b rigs.

Linda

[orca]

All the advice about black tank usage i have read states that one should use generous amounts of water.  Now think about the number of rolls of TP that one would use before dumping....1? 2 would be a lot for us.  The volume of that TP in the tank would be dispersed in that large volume of water so it should not be a problem for any size tank. Regardless of tank size the ratio of TP/water should be the same but dumps per week will vary.

[OregonJim]

1 hour ago, orca said:

All the advice about black tank usage i have read states that one should use generous amounts of water.  Now think about the number of rolls of TP that one would use before dumping....1? 2 would be a lot for us.  The volume of that TP in the tank would be dispersed in that large volume of water so it should not be a problem for any size tank. Regardless of tank size the ratio of TP/water should be the same but dumps per week will vary.

Good point - a full roll of TP has about the same volume as a quart of water.  Insignificant, even in a 9 gallon tank.

 

Most of the black tank problems boil down to not using enough water, or leaving the valve open (thus, NO water) when hooked up.

 

[sandsys]

3 hours ago, OregonJim said:

Good point - a full roll of TP has about the same volume as a quart of water.  Insignificant, even in a 9 gallon tank.

A quart of water in a 9 gallon tank is way more significant than you realize. Or are you truly starting with an empty tank? Not putting any water in it before using it? Then having two people use it full-time because boondocking doesn't tend to come with public toilets.

It's pretty easy to be an expert on something of which you only have theoretical experience. How about you fill your black tank with fresh water until there's only about 8 gallons of space left in it and see how comfortable you are with that? 

Linda

[OregonJim]

9 minutes ago, sandsys said:

A quart of water in a 9 gallon tank is way more significant than you realize. Or are you truly starting with an empty tank? Not putting any water in it before using it? Then having two people use it full-time because boondocking doesn't tend to come with public toilets.

It's pretty easy to be an expert on something of which you only have theoretical experience. How about you fill your black tank with fresh water until there's only about 8 gallons of space left in it and see how comfortable you are with that? 

Linda

Been there, done that.  I had a Class C for about 10 years.  10 gallon tank.  Never had any issues, other than breaking the handle on the valve once.  95% boondocking.  I wouldn't call that "theoretical experience".  And yes, I ALWAYS start off with my tanks filled with enough water to cover the bottom inch or two, regardless of tank size.  

[sandsys]

1 hour ago, OregonJim said:

Been there, done that.  I had a Class C for about 10 years.  10 gallon tank.  Never had any issues, other than breaking the handle on the valve once.  95% boondocking.  I wouldn't call that "theoretical experience".  And yes, I ALWAYS start off with my tanks filled with enough water to cover the bottom inch or two, regardless of tank size.  

Solo or with a wife?

Linda

[OregonJim]

24 minutes ago, sandsys said:

Solo or with a wife?

Linda

The latter.

[noteven]

Anyone ever have s&b dwelling non rv guests aboard and a person who is a setter not a pointer needs to use the facilities and there’s this resounding RAAAaaatle rattle rattle noise as 14 feet a bum fluff is propelled off the roll by the “bat with the hand” or “yard to arms length” method?

Now how you going to fit that in a ziplock bag?

[FL-JOE]

17 hours ago, sandsys said:

Define "good", please. Our first motorhome had a 9 gallon, working, black tank for the use of two people. Would you find that to be good with no reason to reduce solids going into it?

BTW, 9-10 gallon is normal for class b rigs.

Linda

That is interesting that you would full time and boondock using only a 9 gallon black tank, however I think you lost sight of the OPs original post.  They are going to be in a DP or a Class A gas coach.  I seriously doubt either one of those RVs will have a 9 gallon tank.

[colddog15]

1 hour ago, noteven said:

Anyone ever have s&b dwelling non rv guests aboard and a person who is a setter not a pointer needs to use the facilities and there’s this resounding RAAAaaatle rattle rattle noise as 14 feet a bum fluff is propelled off the roll by the “bat with the hand” or “yard to arms length” method?

Now how you going to fit that in a ziplock bag?

A bit of 'education' for guests.   As an ex-boater one of the first things we did when a person came on board was 'educate' guest on the do's and don'ts in and around the boat.     Trust me when I say removing clogged black tank  errata next or on to a floating dock is not high on my list of enjoyment.