New road sign

[runaway parents]

Got a new road sign posted on the street I come home from work on  . It says No trucks with gvw of 26000 lbs empty. Haven't weighed our rig yet. Any body got an idea what a 08 Volvo 780 weighs pulling a 30 ft fifth wheel. We will see who can guess my weight . Planning to weigh it this week end.  We will see who gets the closest will have results Sunday night. Let the guessing begin. Now just to be fair about this the truck is still tandem and has a wood deck on it .

[Nigel]

Do you have a truck or motorhome?  

[Ronbo]

Mine is registered as an rv so I don’t pay attention to those signs. The ones to obey are the wt limits for bridges.

[Alie&Jim's Carrilite]

Truck is 20-22K, trailer is another 13k.  

[noteven]

Truck 19210lbs.

Trailer who knows.

you aren’t “a truck” yer a truck and trailer just like a pickup and trailer isn’t “ a truck “ 

 

[DesertMiner]

Let us know how the visit goes with the judge when you explain to him I’m a RV and I shouldn’t have got that ticket!

[crazybanshee]

Truck weighs 18,500lbs   I agree that you are an RV not a truck. I ignore them also. They are there to keep delivery trucks from the area.

[Darryl&Rita]

And right there is where a MoHo registration is worth the work. 

[DesertMiner]

Did the OP mention how he was registered?

[Mark and Dale Bruss]

Unless there is a restriction for the truck in the neighborhood, you have the "Right of Access" meaning you can drive down the street to your residence.

If there wasn't such a provision in the law, deliveries could never be made to houses in restricted road areas.

"Right of Access" usually entail the shortest route from roads that are not restricted to the destination.

This is how you can have  102" wide trailer on roads that are limited to 96" wide.

 

[Parrformance]

35,678 lbs

[sclord2002]

GVW of 26000 pounds empty is a contradiction of terms.  According to that sign you could legally drive a 25999 pound truck loaded with 54001 pounds of lead down that street and be OK. I don't think the sign maker was familiar with the term GVW.  I bet GCVWR would really blow their minds.                                Charlie

[Big5er]

Charlie, there is no contradiction (they didn't say gvwR) it's just sort of dumb for exactly the reason you stayed. Plus there are not many trucks alone , ie: empty, that will weigh 26000. Even with a big heavy steel bed our HDT's are not gonna hit 26000. A commercial tractor without a bed won't even be close. Basically that sign is a waste of a pole and the metal used in the sign.

And Mark, "right of access" or not I can show you some roads that a tractor may not drive. They can unload it and walk it down the street or deliver the load anyway they want...as long as the load and truck weigh less than 26000lbs. Without knowing the road and the situation your statement may not apply.

Edited September 14, 2018 by Big5er

[adept99]

And 5'er, I can guarantee you that if I had run into a road that I could not take my delivery truck down because of an administrative rule/law, the recipient of the item would then be welcome to come down to the dock and pick the load up themselves, because they had not provided reasonable access.

[Mark and Dale Bruss]

2 hours ago, Big5er said:

And Mark, "right of access" or not I can show you some roads that a tractor may not drive. They can unload it and walk it down the street or deliver the load anyway they want...as long as the load and truck weigh less than 26000lbs. Without knowing the road and the situation your statement may not apply.

Hence my first sentence "Unless there is a restriction for the truck in the neighborhood, you have the "Right of Access" meaning you can drive down the street to your residence."

[ms60ocb]

21 hours ago, runaway parents said:

. It says No trucks with gvw of 26000 lbs empty.

I agree this sign is a stupid waste, but someone knew that the word EMPTY was necessary if the 26,000 lbs was used. I don't know of many garbage trucks that would service that neighborhood.

Clay

[Big5er]

Paul, I would be willing to bet that is a common occurrence, except that the standard UPS and Fed-ex trucks can make it. Both bridges into the neighborhood that sprang to my mind first were de-rated and posted for nothing in excess of 18,000 lbs (or 20..can't quite remember. I think senility is gonna be an easy transition). I've got another area where nothing weighing more than 26,000 tandem axle. There is another way around but its a long way around. That one is fun to hang out at. I'm not sure our HDT's with a heavy bed could get in the first neighborhood. That would be a pain to not be able to drive your truck to the house. Think I would be yelling for at least one new bridge.

Clay,the word "empty" is what makes the whole thing so silly. It says a gross weight of 26,000 lbs. empty. Doesn't say a darn thing about what they can weigh loaded. If it said "no  trucks that  weigh more than 26,000 lbs" then you would be right, garbage trucks can't get there, but an "empty" garbage truck doesn't weigh 26,000 lbs. 

Edited September 15, 2018 by Big5er

[Mark and Dale Bruss]

I have seen instances where trucking restriction signs were posted so to please the local residents about too much traffic.  This is a joke because trucks generally represent a small portion of the total vehicles.  In the case, a road to my house was changed from No Trucks over 7.5 tons to No Trucks and when I tracked down the Alderman that had the signs posted, that was his reasoning.  When I pointed out that under state law, truck restrictions were only allowed when tied to a weight restriction.  The Alderman countered about posting sign of No Truck over 3000 lbs.  And I countered with he would have to justify a weigh limit that also affected automobiles.  In the end, the signs were returned to the original legal No Trucking over 7.5 tons.

The very nature that a sign addressed the empty weight of a truck is a strong indicator that this was a knee jerk reaction by a civic official and in all probably violated a state code.   Cities and communities have very limited ability to post any restrictions that not covered in state codes.  Some of the worst law violations today are done by cities and communities.

 

 

Edited September 15, 2018 by Mark and Dale Bruss

[jenandjon]

I your license plate says motor home you are not a truck anymore. I ignore the no truck signs as long as I know there is not a low bridge or a bridge with a low weight limit.

[rickeieio]

A wise man once said:  "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...."

I do as I'm expected, looking like a truck, even though I am registered as a M/H.  Having a lengthy roadside conversation with a person in uniform is seldom productive, even though I may be right.