Interesting Conversation About DEF

[SuiteSuccess]

Being productive today.  Was in Tractor Supply getting stuff to change oil and filters on my tractor.  Noticed they had their brand of DEF on sale for $4.00 cheaper than Peak Blue DEF.  Stranger walks up and interjects.  (Narrative will sound bit like DollyTrolly, so don’t get mad Dolly😊)

Stranger:  “What kind of truck you have?”  Me:  “Dodge Ram 2500.”  Stranger:  “Then don’t buy that stuff!”  Me: “Really?  Why?”  Stranger:  “Will cancel your warranty and could blow up your truck!”  Me:  “Really?”  Stranger:  “Yeah, those off brands use the same stuff they use in fertilizer to make bombs like Oklahoma City.”  Me:  “I thought that was ammonium nitrate?”  Stranger:  “Nope”.  Me:  “Well better look at ingredients.  Says automotive purified urea 32.5%, distilled water 67.5%”  Stranger:  “Yep, that’s the stuff”.  Me (with a chuckle):  “Is Peak Blue okay?”  Stranger:  “Yep, don’t use that explosive stuff”.  Me:  “Well better check.  Says right here urea 32.5%, distilled water 67.5.%.”  Stranger:  “ Blue stuff is not explosive”.  Me:  “Okay, thanks for the advice, would hate to level my house!”  I bought the sale brand.

Moral:  Had moment of WalMart deja vu.  DEF is DEF is DEF.  Pretty sure what is in the pumps at truck stops is not all Peak Blue DEF.

 

 

[jkoenig24]

I was in a Pilot Truck Stop earlier this week. A 2.5 gallon box of BueDEF was almost $16! I get the poly jugs of DEF at Walmart for ~ $9 per 2.5 gallon jug.

[DesertMiner]

Make sure you are checking the “use by date” when buying at selected outlets!

[SuiteSuccess]

55 minutes ago, DesertMiner said:

Make sure you are checking the “use by date” when buying at selected outlets!

Good point.  Usually good up to a year if stored between 10-90* F is my understanding.  Think I’m going to invest in one of these. Cheaper brands on eBay.

https://www.otctools.com/products/otc-def-refractometer

[noteven]

DEF needs to be API certified. It’s shelf life is shorter as storage temperatures are higher. Many charts exist. 6 years in cold storage and just over 1 year in Phoenix summer - approx. ?

[SuiteSuccess]

Yeah was posting more for the conversation about exploding DEF. Never know what people are thinking. 

[richardbetsey]

The Walmart brand of DEF is API Certified and approved by virtually all of the manufactures. I just picked up some yesterday for $7.00 for the 2 -1/2  gallon container. Blue DEF was $12.88.

[WeBeFulltimers]

Or you could do a delete and forget about the DEF while driving a sweet running truck! Just saying.

[hdrider]

 Been using the Walmart stuff for the last 2 years with no explosions yet LOL!!

[Lance A Lott]

I heard that if you pee in the def tank it won't explode, at least in the Dodge. You probably better find the man and let him know so he can stop,worrying about you.

[alan0043]

Hi Everyone,

You guys have me curious. Why not just buy the stuff at the pumps ? This there something wrong with the pump stuff ? Should I be concerned if I used DEF that comes out of a pump ? I know these are rookie questions. But I am a rookie myself. 

Al

[Phil D]

DEF is all the same.  If its chemistry deviates very much from the "norm", engines will sense it and go into limp mode until it's removed, so it HAS to all be the same.  The main reason that some buy it in bottles is that in many regions, with the exception of truck stops, DEF isn't available at the pump.

[Morelli]

Too funny !  I had a person tell me not to buy the jugs and just get the sacks of fertilzers in that pile ahead and make my own like he does ....  I looked at him and said, Why ?  I just pee in the tank its cheaper ...  the jug is for when I run out of pee .....

For the first time ever, I was able to keep a straight face all the way out the door and to my truck.

🤣

[RickW]

NAPA store brand is Peak just with NAPA's brand on it per the manager of my local NAPA store.  He is selling it for $9.95/per 2.5/g jug.  He sells a pallet a week and no longer keeps Peak in stock.

[Lance A Lott]

  Its very hard to find at the pump in Vermont, they just put all new pumps in at the bigger station near me and no def pump. I think it is because of the weather. If the tank was not heated it would freeze 10 months of the year! When it first came out there was some question as too if it would stay fresh in bulk. 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

With a 26 gallon tank, I never fill it up all the way and always buy it at Pilot/FJ as it is generally a lot cheaper that way. I don't usually buy fuel there because of the price but the DEF is usually fresh.

Carl, anytime you want to borrow a refractometer, you are more than welcome to use mine.

[SuiteSuccess]

15 minutes ago, GeorgiaHybrid said:

With a 26 gallon tank, I never fill it up all the way and always buy it at Pilot/FJ as it is generally a lot cheaper that way. I don't usually buy fuel there because of the price but the DEF is usually fresh.

Carl, anytime you want to borrow a refractometer, you are more than welcome to use mine.

David,

I ordered the cheap Chinese one $17 just to check before I pee in the tank.  😂. Yours is Snap On right?

Actually just wanted to check various brands. Think the guy in Tractor Supply had a Georgia Bulldog shirt on🤪

[Exile]

22 hours ago, Pug said:

Too funny !  I had a person tell me not to buy the jugs and just get the sacks of fertilzers in that pile ahead and make my own like he does ....  I looked at him and said, Why ?  I just pee in the tank its cheaper ...  the jug is for when I run out of pee .....

For the first time ever, I was able to keep a straight face all the way out the door and to my truck.

🤣

Now that there is funny.  Just sayin.

[Dollytrolley]

On 6/14/2018 at 11:44 AM, SuiteSuccess said:

Being productive today.  Was in Tractor Supply getting stuff to change oil and filters on my tractor.  Noticed they had their brand of DEF on sale for $4.00 cheaper than Peak Blue DEF.  Stranger walks up and interjects.  (Narrative will sound bit like DollyTrolly, so don’t get mad Dolly😊)

Stranger:  “What kind of truck you have?”  Me:  “Dodge Ram 2500.”  Stranger:  “Then don’t buy that stuff!”  Me: “Really?  Why?”  Stranger:  “Will cancel your warranty and could blow up your truck!”  Me:  “Really?”  Stranger:  “Yeah, those off brands use the same stuff they use in fertilizer to make bombs like Oklahoma City.”  Me:  “I thought that was ammonium nitrate?”  Stranger:  “Nope”.  Me:  “Well better look at ingredients.  Says automotive purified urea 32.5%, distilled water 67.5%”  Stranger:  “Yep, that’s the stuff”.  Me (with a chuckle):  “Is Peak Blue okay?”  Stranger:  “Yep, don’t use that explosive stuff”.  Me:  “Well better check.  Says right here urea 32.5%, distilled water 67.5.%.”  Stranger:  “ Blue stuff is not explosive”.  Me:  “Okay, thanks for the advice, would hate to level my house!”  I bought the sale brand.

Moral:  Had moment of WalMart deja vu.  DEF is DEF is DEF.  Pretty sure what is in the pumps at truck stops is not all Peak Blue DEF.

 

 

Success.......hummmm

For not wanting to sound like the DT you are .......sorta sounding somewhat like the DT.......

Now........being the DT ain't a easy gig so you are getting close to the "equine-exhast-pile with your post.....be more careful with future posts..... NO one should try to fill my barn-boots......

Rendondo my ...."fixer" .....wanted to drill a few holes in your knee caps but he is over in Russia at the moment on the lamb from testifying in front of the gran-jury........

Anyhow be carefull peeing in the DPF tank......don't let  your......hose.....fall too far into the tank......it is cold and deep in those tanks you know........

Drive on........(Don't try to bee DT......how low can you go.....)

 

[Lou Schneider]

Ammonia nitrate and diesel fuel is what the OK bomber used.  Did you tell the guy he was worrying about the wrong thing you're putting into your truck?

[Darryl&Rita]

Barb hasn't been here to correct you, but it was "ammonium".

PS: this conversation has passed the threshold of "Watchfulness" long ago.

[SuiteSuccess]

1 hour ago, Lou Schneider said:

Ammonia nitrate and diesel fuel is what the OK bomber used.  Did you tell the guy he was worrying about the wrong thing you're putting into your truck?

Lou,

For some reason don’t think I was gonna win that conversation.  Sometimes better to let a sleeping dog lie, especially if it might be a Georgia Bulldog.

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Carl, mine is an OTC branded one. Works well though and not super expensive. Check out www.tooltopia.com for a lot of the specialty tools at a good price

[SuiteSuccess]

7 hours ago, GeorgiaHybrid said:

Carl, mine is an OTC branded one. Works well though and not super expensive. Check out www.tooltopia.com for a lot of the specialty tools at a good price

You’re just not gonna take the Georgia bait are you?😁

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Carl,

I learned to ignore anyone that wears orange and lives in Knoxville. They are all a little touched in the head and we usually say "Bless your little heart" when we meet them. 😁