kidder Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Hi Everyone, Long time no talk. It is great to be back on the forums. So many familiar faces :). About 2 years ago we decided to get off the road and build a new house. So we used as our RV as our house while we built - it worked great. But now we want to get everything back on the road and go see more of the world :). Anyways, the Volvo has been sitting for quite sometime - the last time I started it was over a year ago. Up until that point - it would generally just right up after the batteries had been charged. So there never was any issues. It has always sat indoors and before we took it off the road we made sure we put diesel stabalizer into the tanks (the tanks were full). This time, I charged the batteries, checked the oils and fluids and did a thorough once over the truck - went to start it and it turns over - but does NOT fire up. It is almost like it has lost prime ie. not getting fuel. Is there a way to "prime" to truck or analyze why it would not be getting fuel? Is there anything else I should do/watch on firing the truck after this long? Thanks in advance. Curt Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 https://www.classadrivers.com/forum/truck-maintenance/37827-cant-get-volvo-started-d12-engine-there-way-prime.html Talks about a priming 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 There should be a primer knob on the filter housing. Basically loosen the knob pump it up and down until it starts to get firm and tighten knob. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 https://volvotrucks.vg-emedia.com/ 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Parrformance said: https://www.classadrivers.com/forum/truck-maintenance/37827-cant-get-volvo-started-d12-engine-there-way-prime.html Talks about a priming Thanks for this. As it turns out there is a switch on the truck (near the steering wheel) that is a priming switch. After re-reading the service manual - I also found the switch. As outlined in the manual: "To bleed the D12D engine simply press or push the fuel priming activation switch located on the right hand side of the steering column, in the dash. This is a non-locking switch, which when pressed, sends a signal to the Vehicle ECU (VECU). The VECU then transmits the request via a control data link to the EECU. The EECU activates the pump for approximately 4 minutes. If you have problems starting the engine, restart the bleeding procedure and try restarting the engine again after bleeding is complete. If the engine does not start following this procedure contact your local Volvo Truck dealer." The challenge I have now is the switch will not actually engage. I can press it down but it will not show an active light NOR do I hear anything happening on the truck. I suspect the switch might be 'done' or there is some other gremlin. Off to call Volvo to get a new switch and will start there! Curt Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyandSusan Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Pic of Section in the manual with switch. Susan & Trey Selman | email | HDT: '01 770 VED12 | 5er: '02 40' Travel Supreme RLTSOA | '16 Piaggio MP3 500 | '15 Smart Cabrio | Personal Blog | HHRV Resource Guide | HHRV Campgrounds | Recreation Vehicle Safety & Education Foundation | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 @TreyandSusan Thanks. Got that one I have ordered a new switch as I think the switch is toast. C Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyandSusan Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 @kidder I posted the picture so others could see what the switch looks like. Hope you get it solved easily. Susan & Trey Selman | email | HDT: '01 770 VED12 | 5er: '02 40' Travel Supreme RLTSOA | '16 Piaggio MP3 500 | '15 Smart Cabrio | Personal Blog | HHRV Resource Guide | HHRV Campgrounds | Recreation Vehicle Safety & Education Foundation | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hi Everyone, Sorry to bring this topic back to the top of the forum but I am still having an issue. After trying to get the truck to prime by following the instructions (in the manual) by using the switch .... the switch would not actually 'engage' ie. the engage light would not come on when I turned the switch on. So I thought maybe the switch was dead - as I had never used it before and when I purchased the truck - never checked to see if it worked in the first place. So I purchased a new switch and tried again .... but with the same result ie. the light on the switch wouldn't come on nor would the truck start after following the instructions. I have looked at all the fuses on the various fuse panels to see if the switch was potentially fused some where along the way but none mentioned anything to do with this switch. So looking for ideas? The truck has been parked in one of our buildings for the last few years and having to get someone in to pull it out to take it Volvo to them to try and diagnose would probably cost me more then the truck is worth! :(. Anyways, open to any suggestion someone might have. Can the truck be primed manually? Thanks in Advance. Curt Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickthrotl Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 It can be primed manually, theres a knob on the top of your filter housing, unscrew it and pump it, theres also a bleed screw on the side, if you take it out and pump it manually till fuel comes out, put it back in, tighten the pump and try to start, it will probably still take a little bit to get it going as it has to get fuel to the injectors 2004 Volvo VNL 780 2017 Momentum 376TH 2007 Harley Davidson FLHTC 2009 Smart4two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickthrotl Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Found a pic for you, the knurled knob is the pump, the allen head to the left facing out is the screw you take out to allow the air out of the system 2004 Volvo VNL 780 2017 Momentum 376TH 2007 Harley Davidson FLHTC 2009 Smart4two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Sometimes after I change filters or a driver runs out of fuel I have had to pressurize the fuel tank. It don't take much. You will need a couple friends to help. Put an air blower on a air hose and you need a heavy rag. Like a towel. Take the fuel cap off. Put the tip of the air blower in and cover with the towel tightly. Give it blast of air while someone turns the key. Works better yet if you can have someone pumping the primer all at the same time. It may take a few tries but this has never failed me. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 The only time I had to change a fuel filter I held the dash button manually for 4 minutes (I think). But I do remember having to hold the button the entire time. Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Brad & Jacolyn said: The only time I had to change a fuel filter I held the dash button manually for 4 minutes (I think). But I do remember having to hold the button the entire time. Brad, did the light on the button engage (come on?) and could you hear anything happening? Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 I don't remember a light and I could not hear anything. I was just told that I had to hold the button for 4 minutes. The truck spit and sputtered and then started. I know that the switch did not stay in the engaged position so it had to be held. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 4:30 AM, Quickthrotl said: Found a pic for you, the knurled knob is the pump, the allen head to the left facing out is the screw you take out to allow the air out of the system Thanks Quick - unfortunately mine does NOT have the knurled nob like the picture you posted. :( Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Brad & Jacolyn said: I don't remember a light and I could not hear anything. I was just told that I had to hold the button for 4 minutes. The truck spit and sputtered and then started. I know that the switch did not stay in the engaged position so it had to be held. Brad Thanks Brad. I tried holding it for 4 minutes 3 times and still no joy - the truck just turns over but won't fire up :(. Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidder Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 5:49 AM, jenandjon said: Sometimes after I change filters or a driver runs out of fuel I have had to pressurize the fuel tank. It don't take much. You will need a couple friends to help. Put an air blower on a air hose and you need a heavy rag. Like a towel. Take the fuel cap off. Put the tip of the air blower in and cover with the towel tightly. Give it blast of air while someone turns the key. Works better yet if you can have someone pumping the primer all at the same time. It may take a few tries but this has never failed me. Thanks JenandJon ... this is the next on my list of things to try. Curt/Sarah and the Boyz 2004 VNL780 (VED12-465) Keystone Raptor 361LEV ET Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Did you get it started? What'd you end up doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 You could give a small shot of the dreaded starting fluid and see if it fires. I had to do that once when I had bad injectors leaking and would not hold the prime. Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 If you do the ether trick, make sure you continue to crank the engine until the ether is completely dissipated or you could get one of those dreaded blowback belches that, no kidding, could damage your engine. Or you Or your truck Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraic Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 Is this prime switch for Volvo engine? My Cummins 11 doesn't seem to have one at the dash. My truck had sat for a long time. More than a year at various time. 2011 to 2017. She was easy to start once the batteries replaced. Hope it is started by now. Volvo VNL610 M11+ 98 10 speed Mountain Aire 40' 5th 2002 Outback Power, 1200 watts Sanyo panels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ready2roll Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 did you take the fuel filter out and clean the junk out of the filter housing, can be stoping the fuel flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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