chindog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 22 hours ago, Mark and Dale Bruss said: I have been using Dish for over 13 years. Now the process of changing Service Address started just a few years ago when DNS went away. We make 40-50 moves a year and have satellite TV every time. We only change Locals when we have too because we left a Spot Beam which could be one day or a week or so, but we do the process often. So why am I so much more successful? I don't know. I contact the same CSRs via Chat as everyone else. I am prepared. I have my account number, PIN number, and my script. ready when the Chat starts. Having the account number and PIN shortens the process a whole lot. My script say Change the Service Address and the Locals associated with that Service Address and I clearly state not to change the Billing Address. The Billing Address counts as t sets the sales tax for that address. Your script doesn't say that. My method of having all the information available means a Chat of only a couple of minutes, well within keeping the CSR call rate up. The Locals change usually occur in less than 5 minutes. I can't remember the last time I did a Switch Check to cause the Guide to update. Mostly because with a Hopper, a Switch Check won't make the directory update happen any faster. My courtesy with the CSR starts during the Chat. So if I am using the same CSRs as you and I get totally different results, the issue isn't what I am doing. "The Billing Address counts as t sets the sales tax for that address." I've found it's the service address that determines the sales tax. We are full timers, and over the past few months have been in several states. I called DISH to ask about the various sales taxes being charged, when there should be none as our billing address is Florida where no sales tax is charged. The account rep didn't know, and put me on hold while he checked with someone. He came back on the phone and told me it is the service address that determines the tax rate. During the times that I was charged a sales tax, my service addresses were mostly in the state where the tax was assessed for most or all of the billing period. Quote Mike and Retha Hopkins 2014 Fleetwood Discovery 40G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, chindog said: "The Billing Address counts as t sets the sales tax for that address." I've found it's the service address that determines the sales tax. We are full timers, and over the past few months have been in several states. I called DISH to ask about the various sales taxes being charged, when there should be none as our billing address is Florida where no sales tax is charged. The account rep didn't know, and put me on hold while he checked with someone. He came back on the phone and told me it is the service address that determines the tax rate. During the times that I was charged a sales tax, my service addresses were mostly in the state where the tax was assessed for most or all of the billing period. Yep, and that's why when we're in central to northern Florida we use a St Marys, GA service address that gets the Jacksonville, FL locals without the FL 9.07% satellite TV services tax. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) On 9/25/2018 at 8:39 PM, Dutch_12078 said: Yep, and that's why when we're in central to northern Florida we use a St Marys, GA service address that gets the Jacksonville, FL locals without the FL 9.07% satellite TV services tax. Well don't use the app then. I haven't read all the previous posts but I used the app today and it was real simple. The GPS in my phone gave them the location. It asked which on my 2 receivers I was closest to, I selected the one I was looking at and pushed "next" and it said "You can receiver the Oklahoma City locals", then it asked for the receiver ID and told me where to find that on the screen. In a few minutes I had Oklahoma City locals. I am not a pay as you go customer but I am an RV account. The app sure makes it easy, I'll give Dish that one. I kinda like it. Edited October 1, 2018 by Big5er Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Big5er said: Well don't use the app then. I haven't read all the previous posts but I used the app today and it was real simple. The GPS in my phone gave them the location. It asked which on my 2 receivers I was closest to, I selected the one I was looking at and pushed "next" and it said "You can receiver the Oklahoma City locals", then it asked for the receiver ID and told me where to find that on the screen. In a few minutes I had Oklahoma City locals. I am not a pay as you go customer but I am an RV account. The app sure makes it easy, I'll give Dish that one. I kinda like it. Actually, I do plan to use the app to change our locals to St Marys, GA, but I'll do it while we're staying there at Crooked River State Park in January. If I wanted to change my locals to St Marys without being there, then I would use chat of course. We probably won't change locals again until we get down to Alafia River State Park southeast of Tampa, FL in March, and I'll use the app there as well. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshrader Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I ran into a new one a couple of days ago... We moved to a new location and I do the online chat to change our service address and local channels. The rep tells me he can't change my local channels because my account isn't tagged as a Dish outdoors account. I pushed back and told him I have changed my locals many times through the chat and he finally agrees to do it "just this one time", but tells me I need to get my account tagged as Dish Outdoors. I ask him how I do that and he gives me a phone number that I need to call. After the chat ends, I call the number and the DIsh Outdoors rep is very confused by my request and says she has never heard of that. She says there is no way to mark an account as Dish Outdoors. I asked her how I can get access to change my locals through the app and she said it is very limited right now because it is in testing and they are having some problems with it, but eventually, it will be available to all of us. Obviously, Dish needs to set some rules and do some training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR "Scott" Cundiff Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 hours ago, cshrader said: I ran into a new one a couple of days ago... We moved to a new location and I do the online chat to change our service address and local channels. The rep tells me he can't change my local channels because my account isn't tagged as a Dish outdoors account. I pushed back and told him I have changed my locals many times through the chat and he finally agrees to do it "just this one time", but tells me I need to get my account tagged as Dish Outdoors. I ask him how I do that and he gives me a phone number that I need to call. After the chat ends, I call the number and the DIsh Outdoors rep is very confused by my request and says she has never heard of that. She says there is no way to mark an account as Dish Outdoors. I asked her how I can get access to change my locals through the app and she said it is very limited right now because it is in testing and they are having some problems with it, but eventually, it will be available to all of us. Obviously, Dish needs to set some rules and do some training. Sometimes you just have to say, "Okay, thanks." Hang up, dial again (or use Chat which is actually better) and talk to the next person. Quote Our "Here and There" Blog 2005 Safari Cheetah Motorhome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al F Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 9 hours ago, cshrader said: I ran into a new one a couple of days ago... We moved to a new location and I do the online chat to change our service address and local channels. The rep tells me he can't change my local channels because my account isn't tagged as a Dish outdoors account. I pushed back and told him I have changed my locals many times through the chat and he finally agrees to do it "just this one time", but tells me I need to get my account tagged as Dish Outdoors. I ask him how I do that and he gives me a phone number that I need to call. After the chat ends, I call the number and the DIsh Outdoors rep is very confused by my request and says she has never heard of that. She says there is no way to mark an account as Dish Outdoors. I asked her how I can get access to change my locals through the app and she said it is very limited right now because it is in testing and they are having some problems with it, but eventually, it will be available to all of us. Obviously, Dish needs to set some rules and do some training. On the other hand, our account got changed to an "Outdoors Account" because I started stating in my chat session that "We are in a RV and want to change our service address." I found out when, back at our sticks & bricks we had a problem with the receiver and went though the trouble shooting process with Dish. When they finally gave up and said they needed to send a tech out, they suddenly stated they can't send a tech to an "Outdoors Account". I would need to contact a local RV repair place to come out, i.e. Camping World or PPL Motorhomes. I stressed to Dish, that while we travel a lot, we were at our home, not in a RV. The did send out a tech and he replaced the receiver, the entire dish and the coax to the dish. Hey, when you replace everything then the problem should go away! Quote Al & Sharon 2006 Winnebago Journey 36G 2020 Chevy Colorado Toad San Antonio, TX http://downtheroadaroundthebend.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 When I ordered the free voice remote Dish was recently offering to some subscribers, they automatically set it to ship to my service address. I had to contact them to get it sent to my billing address instead, since we can't receive mail or packages at the service address. I'd think they would do the same with service requirements, sending the tech to your current service address. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yes Dish will not do a service call on a house with wheels. They will do an install but not a service call. No logic on this one. But in 13 years, the only call I made was for a bad HDMI port on a VIP622 and that was handled over the phone. I just assume as an RVer, it is my job to fix things or trouble shoot them. Quote Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I'll have to pay more attention when I see Dish service trucks in RV parks. I know they're not all there for new installations, but they may be authorized dealer trucks. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBeFulltimers Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Mark and Dale Bruss said: Yes Dish will not do a service call on a house with wheels. Actually they will if it's their equipment and the problem can't be handled by phone AND you get a "retention specialist" involved. They don't like to send out empty return boxes. Of course results could vary depending on your location. Quote Fulltiming since September 1, 2010 2012 Ford F-350 PSD SRW Lariat Crew Cab 2012 Montana 3585SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 In the last month I've changed the locals 3 times using Dish app chat, the first two times I ended up calling in but the last time I simplified what I told them and it worked. I just gave them my name, phone number, pin number and new service address. I don't care about billing address because we are paperless billing. Sometime simple is just better. Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 I've changed my locals 4 more times using the chat in the Dish app support and it works flawlessly. I have a memo set up that has my name, phone number, pin number and a place to put my new service address, I change it to the new service address and save it then paste it into the clip board. When you open up the chat it's not a real person so you have to give it your name, phone number and pin and you will be transferred to a real person. When they ask what you want I just past the memo and it's taken care of except for the Thank You at the end. Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 I automatically check my MyDish account after every change made by chat or phone. It's simple to correct the billing address if needed. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 15 hours ago, Dutch_12078 said: I automatically check my MyDish account after every change made by chat or phone. It's simple to correct the billing address if needed. I don't care about my billing address because we are paperless. Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 The taxes you are charged on your account each month are based on your billing address so may be higher if they have changed it to your current service location. Of course it’s not a lot, but if you’re on a retirement fixed income, every little bit adds up. Vicki Quote Vicki, Mark and Sadie Fulltime and having fun! 2016 Newmar Ventana LE 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 hours ago, D&J said: I don't care about my billing address because we are paperless. Denny We occasionally receive Dish mailings at our billing address, including free movies, etc, as a reward of some sort. It's just often enough to make it worthwhile keeping our billing address correct. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Rover said: The taxes you are charged on your account each month are based on your billing address so may be higher if they have changed it to your current service location. Of course it’s not a lot, but if you’re on a retirement fixed income, every little bit adds up. Vicki When we're in the St Marys, GA area heading south, we use that as our service address for both GA and south to central Florida, getting the Jacksonville locals. When we do eventually change our service address to Florida, we start getting charged the Florida 9.07% satellite TV tax. Our billing address remains in NY where there is no satellite tax. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscaler2 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 6:10 PM, Rover said: I have Apple phone and iPad, have an outdoor account, own my equipment and still can’t use the app. I’m not on pay as you go, but that’s not the reason they gave me. They said it’s because my equipment is a hopper 3 and that is marked as residential equipment and not usable in an RV so my account doesn’t qualify. Sounds like any excuse will do. I keep complaining in every survey about 2 to 3 times a week. Vicki Hate to tell you this, but surveys are a joke. They are only put there to make you think that someone cares. Quote 2006 Heartland Bighorn 3055RL w/ Mor/Ryde IS Suspension and Hydraulic Brakes 2011 GMC Sierra 3500HD w/B&W turnover hitch and Companion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 20 hours ago, nscaler2 said: Hate to tell you this, but surveys are a joke. They are only put there to make you think that someone cares. I have gotten two personal responses to my comments on the surveys in the past, but have stopped responding to them anyway since we move so often. But it does show that someone is reading at least some of them. Vicki Quote Vicki, Mark and Sadie Fulltime and having fun! 2016 Newmar Ventana LE 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 12:54 PM, Rover said: I have gotten two personal responses to my comments on the surveys in the past, but have stopped responding to them anyway since we move so often. But it does show that someone is reading at least some of them. Vicki Sometime I take them most time I don't, changed locals yesterday and today but I picked a address that will work until March when we move again heading north. I'm sure another one will show up tomorrow. Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 From what I've experienced in the last couple of days, you have to have Local Channels enabled on Dish, you have to have "Location services" enabled on your phone, then you can use your App to change your local channels, the app looks at your location and that's where the change can takes place. I'm in one location but wanted local channels from home (I know they reach where I'm at as I've had them in the past when I brought a home receiver with me). So I waited until I was at my "home of record" and brought the portable dish and wally with me, set it all up and did the change from home. Now I get my Norfolk Va locals even though I'm in the Raleigh NC local channel area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 I use an Android app called "Fake GPS" to fool the MyDish app into thinking we're someplace we're not at times. When we're traveling up I-81 from down south for instance, we know we can receive the Albany, NY DMA in Jonestown, PA, and won't have to change it again when we get to our Adirondack cottage. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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