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My system leaks. Works good as long as pressure holds. I may have an extra 12k 110v mini split. Anyone ever just subbed the factory ac for this?

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We ran a 12K system on ours but it went bad last year.  The 12K was too big as it cycled on/off too much.  We bought a 9k and I am in the process of installing it now.  I was worried I could not get the truck ac to work but that has now been resolved.  I still want the mini-split  heat pump working.  DW gets mean if she does not have ac.  A happy wife is..... Are you interested in install pictures?  I am building a new rack mount for the back of the cab.  The old one had enough rust that would have been more work than building a new/better one.  I just got it welded and painted today.  Will probably mount it Tuesday if I get all the PM on the back of the cab done.

 

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You stated it cycled on and off. Mini split that I have doesn't do that. It throttles down and basically idles once temp setting is satisfied. also one can buy a mini split for around $700.00-900.00. Don't get much AC repair for that cost.

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If you guys think this bad idea, just say so. Won't hurt my feelings. I don't think mine be that costly to fix but keep hearing thousands repair bill. Got me thinking.

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Glenn, the issue is one of reliability when running in motion. The parts suffer a LOT of vibration. We are Idle Free dealers and they use a similar compressor in their units. They learned long ago that the incidence of compressor failures is way too high if you run it while you are moving. They have electronics in their units to lock the AC out if the truck is moving. I don't know if you will suffer that or not....I have no direct personal experience with running them in motion.

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Thanks Jack. I honestly don't recall vibration in cab of truck. Not saying non-existent but not noticeable by me. I would mount it on rear of cab. 

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There is a RV ac unit that can be mounted on the back wall of a truck. Wouldn't you have to run your generator all the time with a mini split? 

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I bought a 9k mini split last week, should show up this week.  Stripped out the condo sleeper, took out the sleeper hvac unit, didn't work right anyway, and figured the mini split should work.  I'd appreciate any install pics you might have.  I have an idea of how I want it to work but that always changes.  I will try to do the same with pics as I work through it.  I've got a pretty clean slate to work with.  Just got it all insulated and new floor in. 

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We have run our mini-split while moving on a few occasions and it worked fine until this spring.  I checked the freon charge and it was empty.  It may have well been shock and vibs that broke one of the line sets but I did not waste time looking as we wanted to replace it anyway. 

I should have pictures of the new install ready and posted NLT Wednesday. 

 

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I think I would put in a roof AC out of a camper. They are made to travel. If I were going to do it I would get one that has AC and heat.

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I hate RV acs. Noisy and energy hogs. Also that would increase height of truck. That would cause problems.

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I gave the RV AC a lot of thought.  We have had this truck 4 years and I don't know how long the previous owner had put the 12K mini-split on the truck but it worked great until this spring, therefore, we will give this a try.   We like the smaller footprint of the 9K and hope it will not cycle on/off as much. 

Pictures follow, I hope.

This is the indoor part of the 9K heat pump.  Tray under it was because the old one leaked water on the bed below.  When removed, I found that the installer had just pushed an extension onto the drain and did not tape them together.  The female end of the extension cracked open and the two came apart.  I will leave the gutter on until we are certain not water will drip from the new one.

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This is the outdoor rack.  Unit weighs 69 lbs.  The supports under the rack can be seen better on the next picture. 

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This is the mounted outdoor unit.  Only thing left to do is connect the outdoor line set, evac the system and let the freon in the outdoor unit fill the system.

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On 5/21/2018 at 5:29 AM, GlennWest said:

I hate RV acs. Noisy and energy hogs. Also that would increase height of truck. That would cause problems.

Oh I didn't notice you have a condo.

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Chet, that is a nice looking install. I hope it serves you well for many years. Do you know the amp draw on that unit ?

Charlie

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My 12k in my Teton is 6 amps. Mostly less once temp setting satisfied. Imagine an 9k would be less.

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Data plate says 6 amps max.  When I get it running, I will put a clamp-on AC current meter on it.  The old one would run off my 1kw inverter.  This one should too.

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How much will it cost to fix the A/C in your truck? I just went through this myself. I have not gotten the bill yet but I know its going to be high. They said it was going to cost over $4,000 but then they did not have to swap out the evaporator coils. So it will be a little cheaper. I did kick around the idea of putting roof AC in or a mini split but decided against it. I like having the controls right here in the dash. I didn't much like the idea of cutting holes in my truck either.

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4k can put a solar system on my camper. Just saying. I buying o ring kit and try to fix mine. Got a vac pump and guages. If a lot more wrong than o think, mini split, here you come

 

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The mini-split heat pump is all installed.  It works great!  The OAT was 85.  I set the AC to 69 and it got there in a hurry.  It is very quiet.

The current draw was a bit disappointing.  It started out at 5.8 amps but when it got going it pulled a bit over 8 amps.  I ran it on the truck 1Kw inverter and it ran fine but the DC draw (on the inverter front panel) only showed 45 amps.  Should have been around 78 amps if my clamp-on was any where near correct.  I put a high amperage alternator on the truck a year ago so it  would probably run it of the inverter ok but I have the 3kw Honda.  The Honda ran on ECO and there was hardly a noticeable load.  I have a couple more clamp-on AC meters.  I better do some more checks.

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