phoenix2013 Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 What is the old goat up to now Let the guessing begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 It’s a ET LittleFeller? "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, noteven said: It’s a ET LittleFeller? Bit of clarification, the sled on the right is actually the one that is normally installed in an ET Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 A retro-fit to make an ET into an ET Super Senior? KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Alls I know Rick is it looks too heavy even for Mr Cob.’s Ural "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I don't get to guess, I know but will keep my mouth shut (no comments from the peanut gallery). Looking good Henry. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, GeorgiaHybrid said: I don't get to guess, I know but will keep my mouth shut (no comments from the peanut gallery). Looking good Henry. Keep in mind that overall length is 39 inches, couldn't make it any shorter without a "pucker factor", could be a problem on "some trucks", or the one you are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Patterson Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Looks to me like that might fit a truck that hasn't been singled without needing to extend the frame... The ET Shortie? Shawn and Andrea Elvis the Cheagle Dog 2013 Volvo 730 / iShift / D13 XE Package / ET Hitch 2016 DRV Mobile Suites 43 Atlanta 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited Read the blog at 40foothouse.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hey Henry, Just a thought...... Could the hitch be built so that it's reversed, with the head in the front and the pivots towards the rear? It would be handy to shorten overall length of the rig. I know it would require some magic on your part to lower the pivots, but I have confidence in you. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Probably more than 90% of action on any hitch is pulling, the rest stopping. So on an ET most of the time the dogbones are "stretched" (pulling) vs. "compressed" (braking). Dogbones go up when pulled upon and go down when they are squeezed (that's the anti chucking behavior). That's pretty evident in this video Theoretically it should work in a reverse, but I have (for a pet) this engineering gargoyle that sits on my shoulder and whenever he starts whacking me on the back of the head I have to seriously re-examine my thought and he just whacked me. Also having an up-angle from the head to the pivots is a critical design component and that goes for all "pivoted" hitches, I actually would like to have even more. So lowering the pivots is a non-starter. It hasn't escaped my eyeball that the latest entry into the HDT hitch world has the hitch head sit way above the pivot. The above video is pretty long, but in several sections you see the truck taking off, note the pulling and anti-chucking action, particularly at the start and the first few gears. Every time the tranny shifts and there is a break in power input (and a chuck is introduced) note how the ET absorb that chuck and redirects it downward into the air bags instead of into the truck. Also note how the trailer stays smooth while the ET absorbs all the road "stuff" that the truck sees and does not dampen out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8r3400 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I've seen that video before... Somewhere. Av8r34002012 Volvo VNL 730 D13 iShift & 2021 Grand Design Momentum 397TH I'd rather die trying to live - Than live trying not to die. -Leonard Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Henry, Your above explanation seems to support my idea of putting the pivots to the rear and below the head, thus lowering the overall height of the hitch, leaving a cleaner bed when not hooked up. Flipping the hitch/pivots still achieves the anti-chucking, lets the head be placed further forward thus shortening the overall length of the rig, lessening the need for frame extensions...... I don't see a down side. You're about to turn the hitch industry on it's "Binckley" head. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/27/2018 at 12:39 PM, Shawn Patterson said: Looks to me like that might fit a truck that hasn't been singled without needing to extend the frame... The ET Shortie? Shawn, since all the ETs are anti-chucking designs, Super Senior anti-chucker, Senior anti-chucker and the smaller Junior anti-chucker I was thinking about the new "smallest addition" as a SON OF CHUCKY might go along with the older sibling's name the JACKALOPEE What do you think, what everybody thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblr Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I like Son of Chucky 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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