Vegas Teacher Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 My passenger side sits about 6 to 8 inches taller than my drivers side on my 780. I have been told it is probably a combination of old leaf springs, coils (?) and shocks. I am all up for getting my hands dirty and learning but how much mechanical knowledge does it take to do this and or specialized tools. Now buying new tools is fun so I am completely up for that. Later, Cory O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I don’t have front air ride on our truck ( too old) but can the front level valves cause this? Bags leaking? Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Is it just the cab or the whole frame? Cab shocks and airbags are fairly easy. Front leaf springs are a suspension shop or a mobile mechanic that has the jack stands to rest the frame on while the front is disassembled. The cab hinges at the firewall. Those hinges are replaceable as well. Shocks are either super easy or a total PIA. Before starting shocks, start soaking the bolts and nuts with a GOOD penetrating oil. Kroil oil is great, PB Blaster will work given enough time, I use a mixture of Acetone and transmission fluid. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 6-8" is a lot! You might have structural damage. "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Start measuring at suspension components side to side. Take notes. Start at the front working under the hood. See if frame is off or body is off. Do frame first because if it is off, everything will be off. If frame is good, measure from from frame to body. You should be able to identify the problem and then decide if it is within your capability to fix. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showme Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Measure all four frame corners, air bags deflated, and again air bags inflated. Six inches at the front frame rails, usually means a broke spring, most are leaf springs front air bags rear. Measuring a cab or bumper is not a good indicator of suspension. Post back results and will try to help. Volvo VNL / Missouri Titled RV Ved12 425HP Super 10 Spd 37ft KOA Fifth Wheel Jeep Rubicon Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 2018-03-22 at 12:33 PM, Vegas Teacher said: My passenger side sits about 6 to 8 inches taller than my drivers side on my 780. I have been told it is probably a combination of old leaf springs, coils (?) and shocks. I am all up for getting my hands dirty and learning but how much mechanical knowledge does it take to do this and or specialized tools. Now buying new tools is fun so I am completely up for that. Later, Cory O Cory - springs (air or steel leaf or combination) control the ride height of the frame above the ground. There are no coils and shocks dampen the springs they don’t control height. As others have said measurements taken parked on a level place are second step. First is to set tire pressures equal side to side. Tip the hood and measure down from the bottom of the frame rails with aired up suspension all around and report back. Post images if possible. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted March 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, noteven said: Cory - springs (air or steel leaf or combination) control the ride height of the frame above the ground. There are no coils and shocks dampen the springs they don’t control height. As others have said measurements taken parked on a level place are second step. First is to set tire pressures equal side to side. Tip the hood and measure down from the bottom of the frame rails with aired up suspension all around and report back. Post images if possible. Good I am on spring break I will get on that tomorrow. Taking the D.W. shopping today. I have to make her happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 So, I see in another thread you've priced springs. Have you determined that's the issue? And if so, what was the discovery process? KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 1:16 PM, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: I use a mixture of Acetone and transmission fluid. What are your ratios for this? I would love to learn. My background is a minor in chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan0043 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Vegas Teacher said: What are your ratios for this? I would love to learn. My background is a minor in chemistry. Hi Cory, Most of the articles that I have seen when talking about transmission fluid and acetone is 50 / 50. I have always thought about mixing some up myself. Al 2012 Volvo VNL 630 w/ I-Shift; D13 engine; " Veeger " Redwood, model 3401R ; 5th Wheel Trailer, " Dead Wood " 2006 Smart Car " Killer Frog " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, alan0043 said: Hi Cory, Most of the articles that I have seen when talking about transmission fluid and acetone is 50 / 50. I have always thought about mixing some up myself. Al THanks! I am going to mix some up and use it because that P.B. Blaster is not cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Vegas Teacher said: What are your ratios for this? I would love to learn. My background is a minor in chemistry. I mix about a 50/50 ratio. If it's really rusted, go more acetone and keep soaking it. Just be aware that the mix is highly flammable.... even later... Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehc Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 acetone is really bad to have on your skin or to breath the vapors. spray cans may not be any safer, but it is easier to contaminate yourself while mixing solvents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I know of some that use synthetic trans fluid. There thinking is the synthetic molecules are smaller and and create a better penetration. I use this and have been pleased. Do not to forget to shake container before using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 Sorry guys. I should have stated that the synthetic trans fluid was instead of regular trans fluid with the acetone. Shows proof reading pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Sehc said: acetone is really bad to have on your skin or to breath the vapors. spray cans may not be any safer, but it is easier to contaminate yourself while mixing solvents. I worked in the marine industry for 30 years. Around and using Acetone and much worse chemicals on a daily basis. As long as you respect the chemicals and handle with care. it's a good agent to help loosen rusted fasteners. What I have is an oil fashioned oil squirt can. I mix what I can use in several applications in a day or two. The acetone will evaporate after several days or hours in hot weather. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 How does one drive a truck that is off level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: Jim, X2 What I have is an oil fashioned oil squirt can. I mix what I can use in several applications in a day or two. The acetone will evaporate after several days or hours in hot weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasFlyer Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Kroil..... But how did this go from leaning tower of Volvo, to, I need to buy some Kroil??? John Southern Nevada 2008 Volvo 780, D13, I-Shift 2017 Keystone Fuzion 420 Toyhauler 2017 Can-Am Maverick X3-RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 16 hours ago, VegasFlyer said: Kroil..... But how did this go from leaning tower of Volvo, to, I need to buy some Kroil??? Because to unlean the tower of Volvo, you have to loosen some factory assembled moisture and vibration tightened hardware. And because Kroil is the really good stuff.... Pricey, even more than PB Blaster, but it's worth every once. But I have had good results with my acetone and transfluid. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Dang. I was hoping for some diagnosis of why the lean information. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasFlyer Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, noteven said: Dang. I was hoping for some diagnosis of why the lean information. He is bring the truck over next weekend and we can get you a definitive answer, though from what I saw already, I am leaning toward one tweaked leaf spring. Pun intended....lol And while it is leaning, I don’t think it is 6-8”. Then again, one mans 3” is another mans 6” John Southern Nevada 2008 Volvo 780, D13, I-Shift 2017 Keystone Fuzion 420 Toyhauler 2017 Can-Am Maverick X3-RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 On 4/6/2018 at 10:00 PM, VegasFlyer said: He is bring the truck over next weekend and we can get you a definitive answer, though from what I saw already, I am leaning toward one tweaked leaf spring. Pun intended....lol And while it is leaning, I don’t think it is 6-8”. Then again, one mans 3” is another mans 6” vegas flyer is always a smart @$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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