Kroger purified bottled water goes downhill bigtime

[slackercruster]

I've been drinking this stuff regularly. Getting hard to find clean water nowadays.

 

https://danieldteolijrarchivalcollection.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/kroger-purified-water-has-gone-from-one-of-the-best-to-one-of-the-worst/

[TXiceman]

WE refuse to drink any bottled water unless the conditions are horrible.  The RV has a self built filtering system that really cleans up the water.  First is a whole house sediment filter, then a carbon filter and last a water softener.

I don't like the idea of all of the wasteful plastic bottles.  If you volunteer at the parks, you will see the high volume of water bottles and juice packs just thrown anywhere.

 

Ken

[gjhunter01]

We only buy bottle water for convenience and then usually refill the bottles numerous times with local tap water. As far as health concerns, we both drank well water most of our lives which didn't have any filtering system, except natural ground filteration. Even in our travels we drink the local water without much concern under the assumption that the locals have been drinking it. If the local water had trace chemicals in it, they wouldn't have time to accumulate to any dangerous level since we are usually only there for a couple of months or less. I carry one of the blue filters that hooks up between the water faucet and hose, but I rarely use it.

Greg

[Al F]

We have traveled for the almost 50 years we have been married and always drank the local tap water.  No problem finding clean water, just turn on the tap.  By the way, 50 years ago, there wasn't "bottled water".  Or at least what little bottled water the was, almost on one bought it.

[Big5er]

Exactly who is the author of this link you posted? 
Who is Daniel Teoli? What are his qualifications other than being able to boil water? How do we know he doesn't just have some issue with Kroger and is making up stuff to post on the internet? Have you done any testing of your own? Are there other studies done that verify his results? Has he compared the Kroger water to his local tap water? 

Have you bothered to look at the photos posted on his blog? Some of the people here might not be so impressed with his water tests after viewing his collection of vintage looking porn like the "the beauty of see-through lingerie" or the post entitled "Selections from ‘The Collage Orgies 1890 – 1900".

But, back to the bottled water issue:
I carry an ice chest full of bottled water at work and easily go through a case a week. I guess I am too lazy to refill cheap plastic bottles. Krogers "purified" water can't be any worse that the junk you get in a restaurant. 

[gjhunter01]

17 hours ago, Big5er said:

 

But, back to the bottled water issue:
I carry an ice chest full of bottled water at work and easily go through a case a week. I guess I am too lazy to refill cheap plastic bottles..

With a little effort, you could reduce your carbon footprint for the benefit of the planet and future generations. A case of water including refills will last us 3-4 months, that's a huge difference in bottle garbage. Times that by 7 billion people and it could be a huge difference, even though I realize not every person on this planet uses bottle water.

Greg

[Lou Schneider]

The premise of his test is wrong.

Pure distilled water is the only kind that leaves no residue after being boiled away.  All other water has additional minerals, etc. in it, either naturally occurring or added during the purification and bottling process.

It's not safe to drink nothing but distilled water, the lack of minerals will leach them from the body as it passes through the system.

The question is whether the "impurities" left behind in the evaporation test are beneficial or degrading to the water.  Natural spring water is considered healthy, but boil it away and it will leave behind a residue that puts the Kroeger water to shame.

The evaporation test does not address what is left behind, only that something is there, which just means it's not distilled water.

This makes his results irrelevant.

[Barbaraok]

1 hour ago, gjhunter01 said:

With a little effort, you could reduce your carbon footprint for the benefit of the planet and future generations. A case of water including refills will last us 3-4 months, that's a huge difference in bottle garbage. Times that by 7 billion people and it could be a huge difference, even though I realize not every person on this planet uses bottle water.

Greg

Or you recycle the bottles.   All of our bottles (plastic and glass) go into the recycle bin where ever we are.  Maybe you haven't been in areas with active recycling?

As to drinking tap water - obviously someone has not been in Arizona, no way do we doing the tap water here.   We have 3 gallon bottles that we refill with RO water (kiosks everywhere) for coffee, making ice, etc.  

The test the original person did is the type of 'sham' science one sees all of the time.  Does not mean a thing.  Not only will all normal sources of water leave behind a residue, but even distilled water could as it will dissolve left over residue on any surface.

 

[Darryl&Rita]

Them plastic bottles are helping to fund my snowbird season, where deposit fees exist.

[bigjim]

Natural spring water varies greatly from spring to spring.  I can think of 1 or 2 springs immediatly that have so much undisolved minerals in them that just boiling it in a pot on the stove for a couple of minutes leaves serious residue on the inside of the pot. The one I am on now is almost as bad.

The same can be said of "wonderful" well water like we remember from the old days.

[rynosback]

I double filter coming into the RV and I drink and cook water after I filter it through a Berkey that I bought.  I was between a Berkey and a reverse osmosis kit.  The one big thing that I did not like about the reverse osmosis kit is that it takes 3 gallons to make 1 clean gallon.  That just seemed like a TON of wasted water.

[RV_]

We just drilled a new well on a five acre property we inherited. Tastes pretty good unfiltered. It was inherited and the adjacent property went to her brother with the old well on it. That well has soft nasty smelling and tasting water. Thus the new deeper well that brought in sweeter water.

I used to make the distilled water and all the sterilization For the Barksdale AFB Hospital in the early 70s. We tested for saturates and organisms.

I cross trained to Medical Lab Tech for four years and studied all of the water borne pathogens and parasites. Never had problems with treated municipal water. I was the freshwater streams and ponds, and raw meats and fish that can be deadly. More so than from water. Been a few years. We never used bottled water but not do as we rotate our survival water supply. I have a 15 day supply of Mountain House 30 year shelf life freeze dried rations for each of us that need water to re-hydrate and cook/heat.

I don't like the idea of water that might contain inoculates from handling or machinery and sitting over time. So we broke down and keep a 15 day water supply on hand for each of us too. We drink and replace to rotate them through. I would use your online university and other academic water studies as the EPA is rolling back a lot of their rules along with the FDA. Good for business! <right>

When we were full-timing we used a sediment before a charcoal filter inline before the fiver city water intake. No filters inside inside because we chlorine shocked the lines semi-annually along with the fresh water tank and water heater. Here at the house we have an inline water filter for water and ice that we drink from and use for coffee just for taste. We cook with unfiltered.

[gjhunter01]

13 hours ago, Barbaraok said:

Or you recycle the bottles.   All of our bottles (plastic and glass) go into the recycle bin where ever we are.  Maybe you haven't been in areas with active recycling?

As to drinking tap water - obviously someone has not been in Arizona, no way do we doing the tap water here.   We have 3 gallon bottles that we refill with RO water (kiosks everywhere) for coffee, making ice, etc.

 

 

Yes, we recycle whenever we can, however refilling water bottles is the ultimate in recycling. No energy is spent to recycle the bottle for another drink. We also spent 3 months last winter in Patagonia, Az and drank the tap water daily and it was good tasting water. Like others mentioned, the human body was not designed to drink pure water, a little dirt is natural and no matter what you do you will not live forever. So don't take this pure water thing too serious.

Greg

[sandsys]

19 hours ago, bigjim said:

Natural spring water varies greatly from spring to spring.  I can think of 1 or 2 springs immediatly that have so much undisolved minerals in them that just boiling it in a pot on the stove for a couple of minutes leaves serious residue on the inside of the pot. The one I am on now is almost as bad.

The same can be said of "wonderful" well water like we remember from the old days.

My stepmother made iced tea from her well water. None of us would drink it.

Linda Sand

[bigjim]

I have had good well water but even taste doesn't automatically mean its safe.  One place I lived as a youth had some artesian wells that was safe to drink but taste horrible and as stated even iced tea wasn't very good using it.  It had serious calcium or whatever that could mess up plumbing and fixtures in just a few years.

[gjhunter01]

2 hours ago, bigjim said:

I have had good well water but even taste doesn't automatically mean its safe.  One place I lived as a youth had some artesian wells that was safe to drink but taste horrible and as stated even iced tea wasn't very good using it.  It had serious calcium or whatever that could mess up plumbing and fixtures in just a few years.

Taste is very subjective, apparently the stepmother liked the ice tea.

Greg

[sandsys]

32 minutes ago, gjhunter01 said:

Taste is very subjective, apparently the stepmother liked the ice tea.

Greg

She sure never had to take iron supplements!

Linda

[bigjim]

21 hours ago, gjhunter01 said:

Taste is very subjective, apparently the stepmother liked the ice tea.

I agree and if you grew up on it you would be more used to it. 

[sandsys]

16 hours ago, bigjim said:

I agree and if you grew up on it you would be more used to it. 

My stepmother and her late husband built that house about 60 years ago so I'm pretty sure she's used to the taste of that hard water.

Linda

[Ray,IN]

Bottled water is not regulated by the EPA, as is public and private water systems, but rather by the FDA: https://google2.fda.gov/search?q=bottled water regulations&client=FDAgov&proxystylesheet=FDAgov&output=xml_no_dtd&site=FDAgov&requiredfields=-archive:Yes&sort=date:D:L:d1&filter=1

The FDA requirements are as stringent as  EPA requirements for municipal water treatment systems.

 Lou Schneider is right. I think the man in that link has a axe to grind.

 

[Al F]

Gee, in the link above I keep seeing words like "guidance" and " Nonbinding Recommendations", not hard rules or regulations with penalties.

Additionally the link seemed to only mention arsenic and not other contaminates.  

Personally we just drink the tap water wherever we go.  I do fill a clear glass, smell it and taste it before filling our tank though.  We also always travel with a full or mostly full tank so we are not stuck dealing with bad water on the few occasions we have run into water we don't want to drink.

[Ray,IN]

17 hours ago, Al F said:

Gee, in the link above I keep seeing words like "guidance" and " Nonbinding Recommendations", not hard rules or regulations with penalties.

Additionally the link seemed to only mention arsenic and not other contaminates.  

Personally we just drink the tap water wherever we go.  I do fill a clear glass, smell it and taste it before filling our tank though.  We also always travel with a full or mostly full tank so we are not stuck dealing with bad water on the few occasions we have run into water we don't want to drink.

Sorry, that link is to search results instead of the actual FDA website, which is in those results. My fault for hurrying at my age. This pdf explains water quality standards in detail: http://www.bottledwater.org/education/regulations/fda-vs-epa

[Al F]

Good to know that bottled water is supposed to be "just as good" as the free water I get from the tap. 

[sandsys]

9 hours ago, Al F said:

Good to know that bottled water is supposed to be "just as good" as the free water I get from the tap. 

X2. I bought a bottle of water to fit in the outside pocket of my daypack. Then I refilled it from whatever water was in our tank at the time. I never got sick from any of that water.

The only time I ever cared about water was in the Bahamas when we were warned not to drink the local water. Brushing your teeth with Coke is weird!

Linda Sand

[rpsinc]

I read somewhere that refilling plastic water or other drink bottles is not a good idea.  Apparently there is a connection with the chemicals in the plastic leaching into the refilled water and affecting our chemical balance.  It mentioned that it was esp. negative to mens testostorone levels.  Like we need another shot to that,