lockmup68 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/lockmup68/media/IMG_1518_zpsmyxfmvgu.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/lockmup68/media/IMG_1517_zpsvcx1l3md.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1 interesting setup. 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis M Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Interesting. Here's their website safetyhitch.com Dennis & NancyTucson, AZ in winter, on the road in summer.1999 Volvo 610 "Bud" 425 HP Volvo, Super 10 spd.2005 Mountain Aire 35 BLKS2013 smart fortwo CityFlame riding on Bud(Replaced '05 smart first loaded in '06 and '11 smart that gave it's life to save me!)Our Travel Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I have seen those for sale before, but never in person. Not sure what my take is with that setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mike Dillard has been using one for several years. He likes it a lot. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewhoknowslittle Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mike and Teresa are going to the Tampa RV show with there rig if you want to see one in person. He loves his and let's him put his jeep on the back of his truck. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Here's the pics you so don't have to click on the links Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Takes care of overloading the rear axle. It ought to be fun to back up. Newt 2012 HitchHiker Discover America 345 LKSB 2009 Dodge/Cummins LIVINGSTON TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 It takes a little different skill set to back up, but as any farmer that's ever backed up a hay wagon will tell you, it isn't all that difficult. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Uh, if it doesn't have brakes and the other 2 pieces do, that would be fun. Or, if it does and not synch'ed to one of the 2 could be even worse. 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Looks like a solution to a problem that did not exist. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 It takes a little different skill set to back up, but as any farmer that's ever backed up a hay wagon will tell you, it isn't all that difficult. From the videos I watched, it basically just extends the truck out. It attaches by 3 points to the truck frame and it appears It's more like adding a tag axle to your truck that stays in line with the truck. It doesn't swivel on it's own so backing up would be the same, except that you've extended the pivot point of the hitch way behind the rear axle, similar to how a lot of the HDT setups are. So it actually might make backing up easier than a standard 5th wheel setup in a pickup. How it attaches Backing it up Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Depends on pin weight. I had too much for a dually. This would have corrected my problem. I do believe I like the HDT better though. Now that with my truck would allow a longer car to piggy back but I would be so long. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I had seen a similar tow dolly setup before, but it was a little different. I finally found the other one called the Tow All Dolly I had seen although now comparing the two, I think the automated saftey hitch looks much more substantial with the way it attaches to the vehicle. This other setup call the Tow All apears it just uses a standard bumper pull hitch to attach and not the extra points of attachment the safety automated hitch does. - http://ridingmode.com/tow-all-dolly/ Towards the end of the video you can see it in action. Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Back to the Automated Saftey Hitch, it's interesting to watch these couple vids where they take it through some pretty rough terrain with a goose neck hitch and horse trailer on it. It seems for someone that might want to venture more off the beaten path with a 4x4 truck and maybe smaller 5th wheel (I think the ground clearace of the 5th wheel would be your limiting factor), this might give you some better options than a standard pickup 5th wheel setup where getting too much out of line risks the trailer contacting the bed. This recovery video is impressive too with the winch setup. Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Braking, Control, Stability, Manuverability. I was just watching all the videos and really it seems like this would be a step in the HDT direction for those that still own a regular pickup to tow their 5th wheel. I think most on here would say they would probably still prefer an HDT over this setup as you still have quite a few advantages, but it certainly seems to make things better than just towing with a standard pickup. From the videos, he shows how it has it's own brakes that work in conjunction with the trailer brake setup and seems to dramatically help one of the biggest complaints of towing a large 5th wheel with a pickup and that is the substantially increased stopping distance. Since that's one of biggest saftey reasons the HDT's are so popular, it seems like it would be a big plus on that account. Braking Controlability Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmup68 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Here's the pics you so don't have to click on the links yes, it is a steerable tag axel with brakes, option for 8k in pin weight. Pretty substantial setup tied directly to the frame with three mounting points. I talked to the guy a bit and he said it pulled so much easier than with it hooked in the bed and he said that his 5ver would unload the front exle of his truck in many situations and it wasn't fun. He said they were going to give up RVing until they found this. I followed him for a few miles and it seemed to track and tow very well.. Pretty spendy from what I can tell. How to post pics directly in thread without links? I'm still figuring that out. 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 It seems you can only put 2 videos in a post so I'll separate them out. Highway Stability Automated Steering Control System. I wondered how the wheels were unlocked in some videos and appeared locked in others. This explains how it works. Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Last two videos Maneuverability Turning and Maneuverability Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 yes, it is a steerable tag axel with brakes, option for 8k in pin weight. Pretty substantial setup tied directly to the frame with three mounting points. I talked to the guy a bit and he said it pulled so much easier than with it hooked in the bed and he said that his 5ver would unload the front exle of his truck in many situations and it wasn't fun. He said they were going to give up RVing until they found this. I followed him for a few miles and it seemed to track and tow very well.. Pretty spendy from what I can tell. How to post pics directly in thread without links? I'm still figuring that out. Photobucket actually makes it easy for you as it gives you the code right on the page. When you pull up your picture on PB, look over to the right side where it says sharing and then below that look for the line that says IMG which stands for IMG tags. Just copy it directly and paste it right in here and your pics will appear directly in the thread. Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLghtning Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mike Dillard has been using one for several years. He likes it a lot. Mike and Teresa are going to the Tampa RV show with there rig if you want to see one in person. He loves his and let's him put his jeep on the back of his truck. Roger While looking at pics of the Automated Safety Hitch, I found this one behind an HDT with a Jeep, so I guess that might be Mike's setup as mentioned above. As I posted the picture the link to show it, I noticed it says Mike Dillard right in the URL, so I guess that is his setup. That's pretty cool too. Dan (Class of 2017) - 2012 Ram 3500 & 2005 Alpenlite Valhalla 29RK Contact me at rvsolarconsulting.com or Two Wheel Ramblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yep, that is Mikes Western Star. He also carries a golf cart sideways behind the cab in addition to the jeep. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Photobucket actually makes it easy for you as it gives you the code right on the page. When you pull up your picture on PB, look over to the right side where it says sharing and then below that look for the line that says IMG which stands for IMG tags. Just copy it directly and paste it right in here and your pics will appear directly in the thread. I'm thinking that maybe the Dollymoma needs a couple of these things for her trailer assortment......and then I could ADD TWO tire and wheel sizes of my selection of spare tires and wheels (landing gear and axle tires)......pretty soon I am no longer a RV....I am a mobile tire wharehouse...... Drive on.......(two, too many.....spares?) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 From the videos I watched, it basically just extends the truck out. It attaches by 3 points to the truck frame and it appears It's more like adding a tag axle to your truck that stays in line with the truck. It doesn't swivel on it's own so backing up would be the same, except that you've extended the pivot point of the hitch way behind the rear axle, similar to how a lot of the HDT setups are. So it actually might make backing up easier than a standard 5th wheel setup in a pickup. Yep, that definitely makes a big difference! About the same as backing up a standard TT,.. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barncats Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 This is exactly what I need to solve my issue of not having enough room for both the smart and the bike on the deck. But for the price they are asking it may be cheaper to move my axle back to the long position and refab my deck 2000 W900L KWSingled, C15 CAT 475 HP 18 sp, 3:36 rear, power locker,ET Hitch,,22.5 rubber 2011 Excel 36CFE Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdonlybob Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Pretty clever setup... See lot's of advantages, even using with an HDT. However, as will all these things, cost effective is a major factor.. I kinda like it.. Cheers, Bob 1989 Safari Serengeti 34'Towing a 1952 M38A1 Military Willys Past HDT owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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