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Not at all. It was a sidebar I mentioned from 2011 as one reason we are considering pulling up stakes and moving to cooler climes. Then investing in land and perhaps Space X if it ever IPOs. until then we are still in Tesla for stocks, USAA funds well diversified, and owned and now inherited additional real estate. I also feel for those looking to invest in nice acreage near a decently sized city, it is next to impossible to find 2-5 acre properties anymore. 

We are dealing with an unexpected doubling of our money to handle after making a tidy profit with some cashed in, yet having the same problems many are having in not letting banks or financial institutions/advisors dilute and taking a cut. So we will be very liquid for a short while, and vulnerable to dollar changes.

I was here and my thermometer was working well. I could care less if Al missed that I was talking about 2011, and got everyone trying to prove me wrong with data from 2014?

Al quoted temps from the future. He wrote a forecast for 88 years, 87years in the future from 2017. He wrote:

"Below are the links to the July & Aug temps from 2104-2016:"

And our temperatures here, during that drought period were as much as ten degrees variance in a 100 mile radius of what is called the ArkLaTex. It was 110 here a couple of times. I think someone's sensitivity to climate change is kicking in. I don't care if one believes it is natural with nothing we do affecting it, or man caused, or a combination of the two. Louisiana is just getting too hot and even more humid lately.

We want to get out before the rush and the value of 1/3 of our assets, property, loses value. I believe that the rising heat will become undeniable in five years. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Only time will tell, not naysayers about stocks or weather, nor my worry about livability.

Safe Investing!

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Thanks for pointing out my typo for years covered in the weather history links.  I made an edit to my post noting the dates were 2014-2016, not 2104-2016. 

Yep, I missed the 112 degree reading was for the year 2011.  Looking at the weather history for that one year, it was an exceptional year for hot weather for the area. The weather station temps were indeed 107-109 with over a week of highs over 100.  Hot, hot, hot!  Not to be confused with the temps for a relatively cool summer a few years later, as I noted.  

For anyone interested in actual weather station weather history, pick any one of the links I gave earlier and with just a couple of clicks you can select the weather history for any month for the area going back 30-40 years for many locations.

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8/1954 had 17 days g.t. 100 with high 105; 8/1956 had 15 day g.t. 100 with high 104

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Notop, I'm not sure I understand your point.   It is always hot in Louisiana in the summer, just like all of the Gulf Coast areas.  And there will be more VERY hot days in the future, and the hot season will be a little longer.  BTW, the graph you have means nothing because Louisiana is to large to have just a single data point each day for maximum temperature.  

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3 hours ago, Barbaraok said:

Notop, I'm not sure I understand your point.   It is always hot in Louisiana in the summer, just like all of the Gulf Coast areas.  And there will be more VERY hot days in the future, and the hot season will be a little longer.  BTW, the graph you have means nothing because Louisiana is to large to have just a single data point each day for maximum temperature.  

The point is there is a reply earlier about how hot it has become, in Princeton, LA, in the last few years with the temp hitting 112 on a home thermometer in 2011.  Because of this heat, perhaps people are going to be leaving the area and perhaps the economy will decline.  

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Al, my criticism wasn't directed at you.

The way someone shows that is a graph that is meaningless is not to provide appropriate indication of how the graph was generated?  While I don't expect that everyone has had DiffyQ, if one presents a graph as an argument, then it is incumbent to at the very least present a link to the data that generated that graph. 

 

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13 hours ago, Barbaraok said:

The way someone shows that is a graph that is meaningless is not to provide appropriate indication of how the graph was generated?  While I don't expect that everyone has had DiffyQ, if one presents a graph as an argument, then it is incumbent to at the very least present a link to the data that generated that graph. 

 

I would have thought that the  link itself  (i.e., ncdc.noaa.gov) would have been enough to verify the graph authenticity.  I really do not know how to obtain the actual data behing the graph.

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My point, as indicated earlier, was to demonstrate that recent temperatures are not out of line with historic measurements.  If history shows temps as high as recent measurements then I am hard pressed to understand how repeating those same temps is going to have such a detrimental effect.  The "models" predict increasing temps, but I do not think actual data in Louisiana supports any future scary temps in that state.

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This is the closest USHCN station I could find.  Depicts ammual mean TMAX temperature for Calhoun Research Station, 321 US-80, Calhoun, LA 71225.  Taken from http://cdiac.ornl.gov/cgi-bin/broker?_PROGRAM=prog.climsite_daily.sas&_SERVICE=default&id=161411&_DEBUG=0#gplot_meanclim_yr

(from number 7, choose TMAX and change begin year to 1893, then press Get the Plot)  NOTE:  2014 is the latest data available from this source.

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OK.  Finally got data from Minden, LA station.  Highest reported TMAX 08/18/1909 112; 07/13/1901 111; 09/05/1921 110.  This data was ordered from NCDC CDO noaa.gov.  https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/search 

Data Set:  Daily Summaries; Select Date Range:  user input; Search For:  Stations; Enter a Search Term: USC00166244. 

Then Add to Cart.  Then Cart, View All Items.  Then choose Custom GHCN-Daily CSV  (for viewing in a spreadsheet).  Next page confirm the date range and Continue.  Next page, choose Air Temp then TMAX.  Last page supply your email address.  Eventually you will receive an email with a link to the data requested.

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On November 13, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Kirk Wood said:

If you study the history of the US stock market, you will discover that there have been very few periods as long as 8 years when the market has been down and no down periods as long as 15 years. Most wild market swings are caused more by emotions than facts.

The charts here provide some interesting perspective on up periods, down periods, and the cyclical nature of those over varying periods of time.

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2017/05/05/the-latest-look-at-the-total-return-roller-coaster

----ron

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Real easy to answer this today - leave it in the market after the election's... DJI 22K+... has been a nice ride:)!

And of course, a correction is coming. When?

Stay tuned, as Captain Obvious (Smitty) will report back in a few weeks 'after' it has moved towards a bottom trough:)!

Funny how the market can be...

Best to all,

Smitty

 

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I hear ya Smitty. And the Einstein definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results applies too.

Tesla is well on its way back to top $400 very soon. Remember when I said the investment was just small change and I thought it would be nice to see if my money tripled to $60? It is up to $365 and expected to keep rising. I actually think that like Amazon and Netflix it can go to $1000. I am not saying it will but no one can tell me it won't with any authority that TSLA hasn't discredited without even trying or caring. They just keep moving forward.

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