Cowdog353 Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Had brake shoes and magnets with backing plate changed today, was cheaper to buy as a complete set up. They were replaced and still had minimal braking. Found some faulty wiring and repaired same. After drive home checked heat on bearings and found one neverlube bearing running 50% hotter than others. All bearings were checked visually but not measured for slack or wear. Oh well break out the pocket book! Very glad I found it now rather than later. Firm believer in heat guns, $10-15 infered gun saved possible hundreds or more plus the danger of wheel falling off. Seems like there have been a rash of bearing failures Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugsly Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Yeah I really like those non-contact thermometers. Makes it really easy to do a quick walkaround when you stop, and you don't even have to bend over or get your hands dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Jim we found the same, that the whole assemblies were less than replacing the parts. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Did the bearing get slightly over tightened during the installation of the hubs? Were the bearings repacked as long as the wheels and hubs were off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdog353 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 It's a neverlube bearing, does not require packing and was tightened to 150#. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ah. I guess that explains it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Mntom, sounds like you don't like Nev-R-Lube bearings. We have over 72,000 miles and never had a problem. I did replace the originals with non Chinese Nev-R-Lubes after 7 years and 60,000 miles. Greg Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 I have the chrome hub covers so taking a temp from that side is difficult. I shoot the back of the drum on the opposite side to check temps. You can see where the red dot is. Just pretend it is an Isis insurgent, you cant miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Good catch. A friend's 5er lost a wheel because of a Lippert never lube failure. We spent weeks repairing the 5er doing sheetmetal replacement and fiberglass repair. The wheel nearly tore the rear cap off and put a hole in it. Some structural repair was also needed along with wiring. Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Mntom, sounds like you don't like Nev-R-Lube bearings. We have over 72,000 miles and never had a problem. I did replace the originals with non Chinese Nev-R-Lubes after 7 years and 60,000 miles. Greg No Greg, I have no experience with them and I assumed (yep......) that they were like mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdog353 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Estimate 30k plus miles on my neverlubes. Not really biased against them but seems like I've heard about a lot of failures lately. Don't know where mine were made, will check on tear down and maybe replace if alien. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 The replacement Timken Nev-R-Lubes that were installed on our fifth wheel 2 years ago are stamped "Made in France". I had specified no Chinese bearings. Greg Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 We have about 80K miles in 10 years on Nev-R-Lubes. But 2005 was before Lippert and non-American manufacture. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 We had 1 go bad in Texas. A quick Google search found a Dexter parts dealer that had the bearing in stock and a press capable of doing the swap. Bearing cartridge was in the $170 range. Pressing was free. From what the guy told me is that there is "Play" already set in the bearing. But he never said how much was normal, or excessive. They did say that doing tight 90* turns where the wheels were dragging or not having the axles un-torqued when parked put stress on the bearing cartridges. For instance, you back into a hard 90* site and don't have enough room or time straighten the rig out completely. There is still sidewall stress on the tires, rims, and bearings. As the tires and bearing cool they contract putting more force on the cartridge. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjhunter01 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I also use a temperature gun and repack/inspect bearings every 10k miles. I can't remember ever having a trailer bearing fail and I have hauled a lot of trailers in the past. I have replaced many vehicle bearing hubs due to bearing failures. I prefer/insist on a grease type bearing over a hub assembly any day. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBH Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Had one never-lube failure. Found it by jacking up and checking play on each wheel. The bad one had a huge amount of play. The funny thing was that it wasn't the bearing that failed, but the hole in the hub that the bearing was pressed into had worn excessively. The bearing itself was still tight and smooth. We had Kodiak disc brakes installed by Mor-ryde with the integrated hub/disc. Don't know if it was a defective hub from the get go or what exactly happened. I now carry a spare hub/bearing/rotor assy. and check play a couple of times a year as well as temps while towing. Kodiak supplies the bearings and hub/rotor assys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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