Zulu Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Well, it ain't SWM, but DISH's new DISH Hybrid Pro (DHP) equipment promises to simplify DISH Hopper networking, especially in an RV: DISH Hybrid Pro. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 This new DHP equipment may be intended for the expected new Hopper 3 and "Wally" receivers at this January's CES. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McHero Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Does the Dish hopper require SWM? ___________________________ Robert & Deborah McHenry 2007 Fleetwood Discovery 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee 1k Solar topside www.dieselrvowners.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 No SWM is a DirecTV technology. Dish uses DPP (Dish Pro Plus), an earlier technology, by several years, to SWM for bringing signals from the dish to the MOCA ( Multimedia Over Coax Alliance) network used inside the facility. DPP provided for the stacking of two signal streams on one coax cable. SWM provides for 8 endpoints. MOCA has more end points than SWM but currently is only used between the Hopper and Joeys (clients). The new DPH ( Dish Pro Hybrid) is changing the number of data streams between the dish and the MOCA network and will be used only in Hopper installations. Dish tries very hard not to obsolete the equipment in the field and introduces technology in a compatible way. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I tested a DISH Pro Hybrid LNB on my Winegard Travler -- it worked!In automatic Multi Sat Mode the modified Travler acquired sats 110, 119, and 129 as usual, and in Manual Mode I was able to acquire sat 61.5 (but not 72.7).Here are my Travler Upgrade Instructions. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 That was some great testing Zulu. Have you contacted Winegard to say you have done some of their testing? Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 That was some great testing Zulu. Have you contacted Winegard to say you have done some of their testing? Yep, emailed them today. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 There might be a new Hopper released at the CES and it might require the Hybrid equipment so this is good news. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale P Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I have Hopper and Joey and only ran 1 cable inside. I installed the Solo Node outside next to my Wineguard. Once inside I then attach the splitter Hopper and Joey. Susan & Dale DaGirls Rv 2008 Alfa Gold SoLong ISL 425 Cummins 2015 Ford F-150 XLT Tow / Roadmaster Setup 1600W@45Vdc Magnum Inv/Chg&Solar880AmpHrDaGirlsRv Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Once inside I then attach the splitter Hopper and Joey. For clarity, the splitter is called a Dish Tap. It turns out with the Hopper 3 that the new LNBFs and Solo Hub indeed are needed for the 16 channel communication between the LNBF and Solo Hub to feed the 16 tuners that the Hopper 3 has. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thanks for the info. Couple questions. I currently have a Winegard Traveler, a Hopper with Sling with a OTA tuner, a Super Joey and two wireless Joeys, installed in my coach. If I converted the LNB to the PRO and switched to the HOPPER3 what would become of the WIreless Joeys and Super Joey? I believe I'd gain more tuners, 16 vs the 5. But what do I lose? Does the Hopper3 support the same OTA tuner? The wireless Joeys? Also where did you acquire your PRO LNB? TIA TTFN Tim Our blog: http://americantradition.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I currently have a Winegard Traveler, a Hopper with Sling with a OTA tuner, a Super Joey and two wireless Joeys, installed in my coach. If I converted the LNB to the PRO and switched to the HOPPER3 what would become of the Wireless Joeys and Super Joey? You probably couldn't use any of your current equipment -- the Super Joey for certain. Currently, Hopper 3s only work with Joey 2.0s & 4K Joeys. Plus, you can't have more than one Hopper 3 and you can't mix other older Hoppers. Does the Hopper3 support the same OTA tuner? The wireless Joeys? OTA Tuner -- probably. Wireless Joeys -- unknown Also where did you acquire your PRO LNB? Western Arc Hybrid Pro LNBF Eastern Arc Hybrid Pro LNBF SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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