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If I installed an auto leveling system on my fiver, what determines whether I need a four or six leveler system-- Is it trailer weight or trailer frame construction? I assume if it is frame construction, the smaller the frame members, the more levelers needed.

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With a 32 ft. trailer, depending on the frame, you should be ok with a 4 leg system. You should contact Coachman mfg. and find out what they recommend.

I have 42 ft. trailer with 4 leg Big Foot system and it works just fine.

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Ours is 37' and the BigFoot works great. Strong enough to raise all eight (yes 8) tires off the ground for maintenance. I love the one button convenience. We both think it is the best RV investment we ever made.

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The trailer title is deceiving. It's actually 38 ft with triple slides. The Wyoming line was discontinued in about 2009 or 10, and Coachman customer service isn't good, so I'll try it but don't expect much.

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Levels are great, but don't hold your breath on the "auto" part. I have HWH and it was telling me both ends of the trailer were low at the same time (HUH??). Bubbles don't lie, installed next to the controller.

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We have very pleased with our Quadra Big Foot auto leveling system. Another suggestion would be to contact Quadra (4 Big Foot) and Lippert (6 Level Up feet) and see if they have done any installations on your fifth wheel model or if they would/could. Greg

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Frame stiffness should be the determining factor. Weight would only determine the size of cylinder needed, to assure lifting capacity. Frame stiffness will determine whether or not you feel much bounce as you walk around the unit.

 

Don

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I talking to Big Foot, it is based on frame size and the resulting stiffness. We have 4 point leveling on our 40' Champagne, but it does have a 14" frame, not a 12". Big Foot is now offering an upgrade to six-point leveling as an add on to our 4-point system for those that feel it will help stabalizing the rig.

 

Ken

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When I bought mine had a 6 point Lippert autoleveler. So far has worked with no problems. Mine is 37 foot Keystone Fuzion. The only complaint or worry so far is when raising or lowering the legs I get the kegs surging like and you get a crick sound as it sits. I have you can take ou a quart of fluid and replace with an additive from Cat that will solve that problem. If I had an option or choice would have went with Big Foot.

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We had a 6-point Big Foot auto level system installed on our 36 toy hauler last May. Worth every penny. Big Foot recommended the 6-point be installed on ours because of need to put the rear jacks further back due to the rear door and fuel tank on the toy hauler. This system is fantastic!

 

Safe travels. :)

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I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that.

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I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that.

Ours had hydraulic front legs and electric rear stabilizers, before we had the 6-point Big Foot Auto Leveling System installed. There is simply no comparison in how much easier it is to set up (unhook, hit a button and 2 minutes later it's level), how much more solid the stabilization, and with the key fob I simply have to hit the button and our toy hauler goes back to the same height we unhooked from. Setting up a tripod under the king pin is a thing of the past. After having one, I no I would never own another RV without it.

Safe travels. :)

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I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that.

 

Agreed. I have the 6-pt Level Up on my current 5er (forced option) and ordered it on my previous 5er. Did not have it on my first 5er.

 

The vast majority of sites are level enough that 2x12s under the tires on one side can level the coach and it takes less than 10 min to do it.

 

This is just another system that can go wrong. Happened to me twice on my previous coach, once in the middle of nowhere. The system has choked a few times on my current coach, but a quick removal and replacement of the inline fuse resets the "brain".

 

Is it convenient? Yes. Is it a "must have"? IMO, no.

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Agreed. I have the 6-pt Level Up on my current 5er (forced option) and ordered it on my previous 5er. Did not have it on my first 5er.

 

The vast majority of sites are level enough that 2x12s under the tires on one side can level the coach and it takes less than 10 min to do it.

 

This is just another system that can go wrong. Happened to me twice on my previous coach, once in the middle of nowhere. The system has choked a few times on my current coach, but a quick removal and replacement of the inline fuse resets the "brain".

 

Is it convenient? Yes. Is it a "must have"? IMO, no.

So I'll express the opposite opinion. I've had Bigfoot on four 5ers since 2003. I would never own a rig without them. They are far more convenient and allow changing a tire very easily. I agree they are not "required"...in fact, very few of the items in an RV are "required". Mostly they are a convenience. And at least in my case they are a"required" convenience. :)

 

In Glenn's case, since he moves very infrequently, I can see why he feels they are not needed. But for those of us that move around more they are VERY convenient, IMO.

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Our rig has the 4 place Level Up system. Seems plenty stiff. Super fast and convenient for all the reason already mentioned. Will never have another rig without one.

Later,

J

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I have independent jacks on front, crank down stabilizers in rear. Honestly after I get loose from truck, in less than 10 minutes we are level. The dually causes me more time due to having to lift so high to unhook. That will soon be over!!! I know ya'll push a button but mine is simplicity, simple, and I can fix it easily when it gives trouble.

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Isn't it great to have the ability to have or not have RV options to fit everyone's different desires!

Ford vs GM vs Ram, MH vs fifth wheel vs travel trailer. Auto levelers vs manual levelers. Greg

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But for those of us that move around more they are VERY convenient, IMO.

 

Meh, considering I put ~10K on my rig in 6 months this year, I think that is moving around quite a bit.

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1 hour ago, Darryl&Rita said:

He's got it on multiple sub-forums here, and other sites, as well. Already answered. EqualizerSystems, but this one looks to be well Frankensteined.

Thanks.  I wonder if the original installation was Equalizer Systems.  This is on a 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C built on a Chevrolet Kodiak chassis.  Engine is 8.1L gasoline.  

If the original was Equalizer Systems, someone may have put in a completely different control system and mounted the switches in the Equalizer Systems plate just because that plate fit in the Kodiak council.

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