ms60ocb Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Locally I can stop and look at Diesel pumps (maybe I'm just filling the car with gas or buying a newspaper) and decide were straight Diesel is being sold. Thus when I routinely fill-up I can have real Diesel. What I'm looking for is a Link or app that will allow me find places that a has a pump(s) that sells pure diesel (No Bio--diesel added). Has anyone know of such a source that help locate those sites after I leave my local area. After that I then have decide if I can fill-up with the FW connected or a quick disconnect. Gas buddy will give prices and the more expensive diesel in a area is not an indication of a pure diesel. Observed cost increase 5-8 cents or 2.5 % Difference between Bio-diesel and pure diesel in my Ford 6.7 diesel is Mileage. when driving the rather flat lands I just watch Fuel Economy on a 2 minute average., If I see a drop for no apparent reason I assume RE-GEN. The RE-GEN 's using Bio-Diesel seems to come more often and definitely longer duration. thus overall lower MPG. I believe the non Re-Gen running is better MPG but pulling the 37 foot Montana changes ave MPG greatly with the direction of the wind . 2011 Ford F350 Dually 6.7 CC LB 2010 Keystone Montana 37 foot Clay Clay & Marcie Too old to play in the snow Diesel pusher and previously 2 FW and small Class C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertraveler Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Can't help with an app or website, but in my experience Murphy's and Flying J are almost always biodiesel blends at higher than the 5% recommended for my Duramax engine. For the past three years, I have been unable to find any stations in Illinois that have diesel with 5% or less diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker56 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Using Bio is the best lubricant for your engine. No need to add any aftermarket lub. And it will clean your tank/lines of that nasty stuff the Non bio fuel put in them. If your mileage has dropped with it. Slow down to 55-58 MPH and it will probably be the same or better then running 65-70. Full Time since Oct. 199999 Discovery 34Q DP | ISBDatastorm | VMSpc | Co-Pilot Live | Pressure Pro2014 MKS Twin Turbo V6 365 HP Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms60ocb Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 , I have been unable to find any stations in Illinois that have diesel with 5% or less diesel. I can name places that may pure diesel or specific stations locations in some smaller towns in NW Illinois. Places that may are some are; Phillips, Caseys and FS. In Monroe WI there is one station but not sure of name. It seems to follow private ownership. Clay . Clay & Marcie Too old to play in the snow Diesel pusher and previously 2 FW and small Class C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMichael Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Can not speak to the accuracy, however Pilot does post the bio %. (column on the right) http://www.pilotflyingj.com/fuel-prices?start=0 JMichael 2001 Newmar KADP 4084 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 In the southwest USA Valero stations usually have non-bio diesel. They don't all have diesel, though. I stopped using Flying J when they went bio because their pumps said it might be a higher percentage than my Sprinter would accept. It's also my experience that stations advertising no Ethanol also have non-bio diesel if they sell diesel. Linda Sand Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlvillestu Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 The Shell station at Exit 115 (Baxter Road) off I39 in Illinois has some diesel pumps marked as bio diesel. The other pumps are not bio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenp Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 And the state of Oregon is encouraging the use of B20 by not charging the normal road tax on it! I saw diesel for 40 cents lower than anyplace else in town and pulled in to fill up the coach but soon departed - don't want that crap in my tank! Lenp USN Retired 2002 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom 2012 F150 4x4 2018 Lincoln MKX 2019 HD Ultra Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&K Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 If I could get that big a break on the price, I would probably add 30 gallons per side into the 150 gallon tanks, then add a bit more each time until I was sure the fuel system was happy. Probably going to cause a few unscheduled filter changes, but at the end of the day the entire fuel system will be shiny clean. In the long run maybe not such a bad deal. I don't have religion about either bio-diesel or ethanol. Its big government in action, paid for by those that can afford to pay for it. Turning food into fuel never struck me as that good an idea but I don't circulate at the levels that make those decisions. Geo George,Suzuki Celerio 998cc Yamaha NMAX scooter Work ride is Western Star N2 Tri-Tri tanker at 56,500kg loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjwicklund Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 I would have no problem using B20 except my 09 is only rated for B5, it just shows that government makes rules without concern about their constituents. The people that really keep this country running. John 2017 F350 King Ranch DRW 6.7 4.10 B&W hitch 2017 DRV MS 36RSSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whj469 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I have not seen diesel that doesn't have 5% bio in a long time. Here in SE Texas all that I see is the 5% bio and my 2011 F250 can use up to the 20% bio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 This hubub about not using biodiesel is just like the hysteria when unleaded gas became the norm, it is a non-issue. Virtually all diesel today contains 2%/B2 biodiesel to replace lost lubricity during the refining process that removes sulfur. This Lubricity additive study is very enlightening. I challenge everyone, find a documented case where biodiesel has ruined a diesel engine. My old 1932 Chevrolet runs just fine on unleaded gas, and my old 1972 Case diesel tractor runs just fine on B20/20% biodiesel. BUT, if you've been buying dirty fuel, you will be changing fuel filters often until your system gets clean again. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Seems a lot of people forget what the original diesel motors were designed to run on. Barb Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker56 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Seems a lot of people forget what the original diesel motors were designed to run on. Barb Back in 1891 Kerosene, also known as lamp oil, is a combustible hydrocarbon liquid widely used as a fuel in industry and households. Its name derives from Greek: κηρός (keros) meaning wax, and was registered as a trademark by Abraham Gesner in 1854 before evolving into a genericized trademark. It is sometimes spelled kerosine in scientific and industrial usage.[1] The term "kerosene" is common in much of India, Canada, the United States, Argentina, Australia and New Zealand.[2][3] Kerosene is usually called paraffin in the UK, Southeast Asia, East Africa and South Africa.[4] A more viscous paraffin oil is used as a laxative. A waxy solid extracted from petroleum is called paraffin wax. Full Time since Oct. 199999 Discovery 34Q DP | ISBDatastorm | VMSpc | Co-Pilot Live | Pressure Pro2014 MKS Twin Turbo V6 365 HP Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&K Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 The first diesels were designed to run on coal dust. The first working diesel, however, ran on peanut oil. Barb is right. George,Suzuki Celerio 998cc Yamaha NMAX scooter Work ride is Western Star N2 Tri-Tri tanker at 56,500kg loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davydee Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 This hubub about not using biodiesel is just like the hysteria when unleaded gas became the norm, it is a non-issue. Virtually all diesel today contains 2%/B2 biodiesel to replace lost lubricity during the refining process that removes sulfur. This Lubricity additive study is very enlightening. I challenge everyone, find a documented case where biodiesel has ruined a diesel engine. My old 1932 Chevrolet runs just fine on unleaded gas, and my old 1972 Case diesel tractor runs just fine on B20/20% biodiesel. BUT, if you've been buying dirty fuel, you will be changing fuel filters often until your system gets clean again. I think it's the fuel system for those of us running the B5 certified diesels that's the issue, though I'm confident that "making engine oil" (where we're actually adding diesel fuel to the engine oil during active dpf cleaning) isn't doing anything useful for the lube capability of the engine oil. I'd post a link to my experience on the diesel stop forum, but it's not saving here when I post to this thread. BTW: The days of $19.95 for a fuel pump and an hour to replace it are gone. My fuel pump was $4,500. Total repair was $10,034, and we loss the use of the truck for two weeks. The fuel pump failed due to rust. (I didn't know aluminum rusted. Corrode, yes, but no rust.) We never saw any water in any fuel drainings. I'm a CFI-II (water in fuel tends to be fatal in aviation) plus eight years in the Navy Reserve as a Fuels Logistics Officer; I know how to drain & check for water and I did. Never saw any water before the fuel pump failure and haven't seen any since. However, we've since learned that Minnesota law mandates B10 or greater diesel, and we'd been in Minnesota volunteering for a summer at Voyageurs Natl Park 18 months before the fuel pump failed. Makes me think there really is something to that B5 rating our truck has. David David & Donna Driver, Class of 20102017 Ford F350 Platinum CC DRW 4x42011 MS 36RSSB3 w/Vanity Slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjwicklund Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't believe that something with as much lubricity as bio has could ruin a pump, but then again I have been wrong before. I have run more than a few tanks of B-99 in my 1996 Cummins. Within the first two miles (distance from the dispenser to my house) I noticed that the engine ran much smoother and the smoke was less. I also discovered that the smoke at wide open was grey, not black, and that with my injectors the truck would put out a haze when idling warm. There is a slight loss of power and my mileage did drop about 1 to 1.5 mpg. I also noticed that when I went to diesel the boost guage moved more and faster along with a noticeable seat of the pants increase in power. I did not even have to change my fuel filter either. The use of biodiesel was mandated by federal law without regard to vehicles that would be in violation of manufacturers warranties due to the percentage required. If you own one of these vehicles your screwed, you either fill it up with fuel it is not made to run on and take your chances that nothing will go wrong because the warranty will not cover damage done or park your $60,000 vehicle and watch it rust. John 2017 F350 King Ranch DRW 6.7 4.10 B&W hitch 2017 DRV MS 36RSSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think it's the fuel system for those of us running the B5 certified diesels that's the issue, though I'm confident that "making engine oil" (where we're actually adding diesel fuel to the engine oil during active dpf cleaning) isn't doing anything useful for the lube capability of the engine oil. I'd post a link to my experience on the diesel stop forum, but it's not saving here when I post to this thread. BTW: The days of $19.95 for a fuel pump and an hour to replace it are gone. My fuel pump was $4,500. Total repair was $10,034, and we loss the use of the truck for two weeks. The fuel pump failed due to rust. (I didn't know aluminum rusted. Corrode, yes, but no rust.) We never saw any water in any fuel drainings. I'm a CFI-II (water in fuel tends to be fatal in aviation) plus eight years in the Navy Reserve as a Fuels Logistics Officer; I know how to drain & check for water and I did. Never saw any water before the fuel pump failure and haven't seen any since. However, we've since learned that Minnesota law mandates B10 or greater diesel, and we'd been in Minnesota volunteering for a summer at Voyageurs Natl Park 18 months before the fuel pump failed. Makes me think there really is something to that B5 rating our truck has. David According to this website: http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/blog/best-diesel-vehicles-for-biodiesel/ Your engine is warranted for up to B20 biodiesel. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davydee Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Unfortunately, we got the 6.4L. Not sure where they came up with the 2009 as having 6.7L engines as there's 2010 Fords with the 6.4L, too. Thanks! David David & Donna Driver, Class of 20102017 Ford F350 Platinum CC DRW 4x42011 MS 36RSSB3 w/Vanity Slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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