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  1. Traveling through Ontario Canada

    RandyA... A number of years ago, I was still working on moving my stuff west from my Mom's place, we had traveled through Canada and were crossing back to the US. I had brought a couple of soft gun cases with me, I was going to take back the last of my fathers rifles (return trip through the US). Had a cargo trailer, the customs agent wanted to look inside. I had totally forgotten that I had left those gun cases on top of the stuff we had in there. I think the agent about came 2 feet off the ground when he saw the cases, had already asked about weapons, but hard to tell if a case is empty or not just looking at it! If you are travelling across the border and feel the need to have a self defense weapon, starting fluid (aka ether) is perfectly legal. Back when I drove commercially, I kept a can next to the seat. Some of the neighborhoods I would get to visit were not the best.
  2. Traveling through Ontario Canada

    Customs/border agents is a whole other story than DOT/MTO/HP whatever the local truck enforcement officers are called. I have never had a problem with the RV crossing the border, buy my wife has. I have been hassled at Canadian customs about working in Canada, (I work for a Canadian company), they deflate pretty fast once the agent realizes that I have work rights for Canada, but live in the US.
  3. Traveling through Ontario Canada

    Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to know. Will always have RV with us. Primarily just passing through, Ontario is between here and Mom's place. If we do decide to stop and explore, the whole point of going the HDT route is to have another vehicle with us. Just unload and go.
  4. Traveling through Ontario Canada

    Canadian provinces get to make their own rules. The western provinces have a much different attitude than Ontario and Quebec. I have found that Quebec regulations include personal use language, which is a change from several years ago. Thanks to the Ontario residents who responded.
  5. Traveling through Ontario Canada

    Anyone here have experience traveling Ontario with a HDT/RV trailer registered as a private truck? Been searching, but all I can find is personal use Motor Homes are exempt from commercial regulation and conflicting information on larger truck/trailer combinations.
  6. "Not for Hire" Busted article

    You are correct. I edited my post to hopefully not spread false information.
  7. "Not for Hire" Busted article

    Really there haven't been any major changes to the hours of service rules and federal regs for the last ten years. (There have been to physicals and drug testing.) The ELD mandate is only reducing the opportunity to cheat the laws that were already there. As someone who used to drive for a living, I think ELDs will be a good thing in the long run. Eventually the shippers and receivers will have to get their act together and not expect the drivers to make it happen. As far as the article goes, it is mostly correct, again nothing has really changed recently. The not for hire sinage hasnt meant much of anything since the demise of the ICC many years ago. As to drivers licenses, if you have a motor home for personal use only, you do not require a CDL. Your state may require a higher class license, but is not a CDL. If you drive a PERSONAL truck and live in a state that does not have higher class non commercial licenses, you may well have to have a CDL. Also, many states have the ands and ors mixed up in their class A definition.
  8. Definition of an RV

    I don't disagree with what you guys are saying. Unfortunately I won't know for certain until I am standing at the counter with a title and receipt in hand. The system here is based on regional offices, its not like walking into your local town or county clerks office and having a nice chat. I just want to be sure I have a plan whichever way it goes.
  9. Definition of an RV

    Some days its easier to figure out how to work the system, then to figure out how to get the system to work.
  10. Definition of an RV

    Thank you for the responses Chad. While the pickup discussion was not part of the original question, it is still important to the decision process of deciding to buy a HDT. It also highlights the issues of complying with the rules of 49 different states and 8 Canadian provinces. Places like Minnesota that have road signs stating "road closed to over 9 ton" that would have you think that 18000 lb is the max weight allowed, when really it's per axle. I understand that a bobtail HDT would want to stop at weigh stations. In my use, I would only see that happening relatively local, and there are roads to pick from that don't have scales. Currently, at times I fall into the need to stop category with the F350, but for some reason have never driven past a weigh station. Anyway thanks again for the discussion, I have found it worthwhile. Who knows I may feel the need to visit CA someday.
  11. Definition of an RV

    Question for Chad - California scales... So from the information above, if I were traveling in CA with my F350 and travel trailer, I would need to stop at the scales? Unladen weight is - 8800 lb.
  12. Definition of an RV

    Ok, so more digging and I think I have answers in regards to IRP and IFTA. IRP's definition is: RECREATIONAL VEHICLE ―Recreational Vehicle‖ means a Vehicle used for personal pleasure or personal travel and not in connection with any commercial endeavor. Official Commentary The term ―Recreational Vehicle‖ refers to vehicles such as campers, house trailers, motor homes, and mobile homes when used exclusively for personal pleasure and travel by an individual and his family. In order to qualify as a Recreational Vehicle, the Vehicle must not be used in connection with any business endeavor. IFTA's definition is much the same, (I couldn't figure out how to link correctly) with three main tests to determine commercial or private use: 1: Is the vehicle registered to an individual (or couple)? 2: Are there any business names/sponsor logos indicating business use? 3: Is the vehicle depreciated for tax purposes?
  13. Definition of an RV

    From the above link: (In CA) 260. (a) A “commercial vehicle” is a motor vehicle of a type required to be registered under this code used or maintained for the transportation of persons for hire, compensation, or profit or designed, used, or maintained primarily for the transportation of property. So my interpretation of this is that any truck (with out a pickup box) would be deemed a commercial vehicle in California. Which would then lead to the discussion of registration, fuel tax, etc for someone from out of state. Hence why I am confused about how to do this legally, without the option of a motorhome title. As I mentioned before, North Dakota makes no distinction on the registration of private or commercial, it merely says "truck".
  14. Definition of an RV

    This illustrates my question in the first place. With the CA numbers above, my one ton plus TT are over 11500 GVW. I have never stopped at or been given a second look at a scale. Because a 1ton and TT are considered a normal RV. As most of you know, a HDT and TT is not a "normal" RV. The only time I see me using the truck bobtail would be local to home. I know where all the scales are and don't plan on visiting them. Yes, there are the mobile patrols, but around here, for the most part, you have to be doing something stupid to get pulled over. The scale rules vary by state, anywhere from 10000 to 26000 GVW. Some are signed, most are not.
  15. Definition of an RV

    What I am trying to wrap my head around is according to IRP and IFTA, any three axle vehicle must comply when crossing state lines, but RVs are specifically exempted. Maybe I'm just over thinking things. I did find the following in CFR 49 571 Recreation vehicle trailer means a trailer, except a trailer designed primarily to transport cargo, designed to be drawn by a vehicle with motive power by means of a bumper, frame or fifth wheel hitch and designed to provide temporary residential accommodations, as evidenced by the presence of at least four of the following facilities: cooking; refrigeration or ice box; self-contained toilet; heating and/or air conditioning; a potable water supply system including a faucet and a sink; and a separate 110-125 volt electrical power supply and/or propane. “Recreation vehicle trailer” includes trailers used for personal purposes, commonly known as “sport utility RVs” or “toy haulers,” which usually have spacious rather than incidental living quarters and provide a cargo area for smaller items for personal use such as motorcycles, mountain bikes, all terrain vehicles (ATVs), snowmobiles, canoes or other types of recreational gear. This definition is much the same as the motor home definition. From what I have been reading, the key word is personal use, not private. Wal-Mart operates a private truck fleet, they only haul loads for the company, but must follow CMV rules. Members of the Walton family can operate a personal MH just like the rest of us so long as it's use has no business connection.
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