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  1. 50 amp power management

    Hey Kirk, you rascal you, I resemble that remark LOL The "first wife" (I still call her that) and I bought our very first "RV" in 1970, it was home made, bought on the south side of Indianapolis, and it fit on the back of our old Ford 4 x 4 pickup which we drove to Florida and hauled my Uncles boat back home, we came a long way since but a person never forgets their first unit and how I fixed it up and the fun we had.... The dog we took along with us died but the wife and I survived............ Best wishes John T
  2. 50 amp power management

    SAME HERE JACK, as a 47 year RV user and past RV dealer if a 50 amp RV has two AC units they were on two different legs, despite that I learned to NEVER SAY NEVER lol John T
  3. 50 amp power management

    That's a for sure Rich. The AC is one of the heavier current loads in an RV and its always best to balance loads (like L1 & L2 in a 50 amp RV) and to reduce current flow (wasted I Squared R losses) in the grounded conductor when possible. I'm on the way to Florida to join you right now, it turned cold in North Texas and South Louisiana where I'm at a Walmart tonight brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr John T
  4. You're Welcome, looks like we must have both been posting at the same time lol Those units aren't hard at all to install if anyone is considering adding one. John T
  5. It an electronic safety device that monitors boiler temperature and shuts down the fridge if it overheats. I assisted Ray last fall when he installed one on his fridge. Its one of those potential "RV risks" out there and is a persons free choice to assume the risk or take measures (like the ARP safety unit) to help limit it https://www.arprv.com/ John T
  6. Good or Bad Idea?

    Big Jim, THAT SOUNDS SCARY...........Thanks for the post.................Rolling down the road at 60 MPH with a tank full of gasoline plus an LP gas tank ("possibly" moreso or "possibly" not, take your pic, if ON and flame appliances are operating) can be hazardous in the event of a serious crash or accident, especially if a fire erupts YIKES !!! The later RV's I've owned with an electric fuel pump had a safety crash tumbler switch which turned off power to the pump under a hard shock. But hey it's the lifestyle I choose, I just take all reasonable preventive safety measures and precautions and pray each day and trust in the Lord........... Take care, be safe n God Bless John T Live from Jetty Park free dry beach camping south of Matagorda, Texas
  7. Using Dielectric Grease

    Thanks for the info JT. I knew some here would have specific and brand suggestions. I have a tube of generic dielectric grease I use but knew there products for specific applications THANKS AGAIN Best Wishes n God Bless John T
  8. Good or Bad Idea?

    Yo Big Jim. NOPE you weren't the only one lol BTDT and got the T Shirt Ahhhh the Indiscretions of Youth..........Hopefully were a bit older n wiser now. I'm fer darn sure more careful and safety minded nowadays and don't take the risks I did as a teenager. John T live from Jetty Park on the beach in Matagorda Texas for some overnight free boondocking.
  9. Good or Bad Idea?

    Dutch, I agree, back in the oldddddddddddd days using carburetors we didn't run as much fuel pressure as in todays in tank electric fuel pumps and fuel injection. Nice chatting with yall, again a fun discussion John T
  10. Using Dielectric Grease

    While a "dielectric" is itself an electrical insulator, its other benefits such as keeping moisture and oxygen (causes oxidation) and other contaminants away (possibly aiding in heat transfer???) from a physical electrical connection may outweigh disadvantages IF USED PROPERLY !!!!!!!!!!!! I'm unsure of its exact chemical properties, but many automotive electrical connectors contain a white greasy factory installed substance (what is that stuff?????) that may be best to use ???????????? Hope some automotive electrical connection experts weigh in. I would indeed use some sort of an auto or marine electrical connector protectant BUT I DONT HAVE ANY MAKE OR MODEL NUMBER OF A PRODUCT TO CITE SORRYYYYYYY I bet some of the other fine gentlemen here can ??????????? John T
  11. 50 amp power management

    Good info and picture Kirk. Indeed the two breakers, one for L1 other for L2, are for safety and/or other possible reasons mechanically tied together so if one opens the other does also. In many years of practice I've even seen where an "electrician" ? used a piece of wire through the handles (if not otherwise tied) to join two breakers. While a professional electrician tech or engineer is well aware of what you so well described, if they were NOT tied a lay person or many typical RV owners might encounter a hazardous situation otherwise YIKES........... Best wishes Kirk and all here, be safe now John T
  12. Good or Bad Idea?

    jc, you sure ask good questions I thoroughly enjoy THANKS. And THANKS TO AL AND ALL for the links regarding driving with LP Gas on and the possible ramifications, plenty of "opinions" out there BOTH lay and professional (Like I said NOT my words take it up with the authors if you disagree with any of the links, there are hundreds out there, some maybe right some maybe wrong) MAKE "YOUR" OWN PICKS AND CHOOSE "YOUR" OWN RISKS you MAY or MAY NOT be betting your life on them !!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad to live in a country where we have freedom of choice !!!!!!!!!!!! jc, NO I've never won a case that involved "a propane heater being on when travelling and it blew up the propane tanks when moving" THANK GOD ALSO. I, however, as either an attorney or 47 year RV user and dealer heard of RV accidents and fires and know if such ever happened to me I prefer and choose confident its just safer the LP Gas be OFF at the tanks, VERSUS ON WITH LIVE GAS LINES AND OPEN FLAMES IN A FURNACE OR FRIDGE ETC IN CASE OF AN ACCIDENT WELL DUH THATS A NO BRAINER LOL even IF there are safety features ??? and IF they work ??? As I noted above, a persons CHOICES are NOT a thing to argue over, no right or wrong answers, THOSE ARE HIS OWN DECISIONS he may be right ORRRRRR he may be wrong ??? I made my choice and others have done likewise NO PROBLEM OR ARGUING ABOUT THAT !! Great and very informative fun discussion with lots of good info cited, plenty of lay and/or professional "opinions" all of which make good reading so we can make more informed decisions. To each their own choices regarding safety, hard to fault a person for doing that. I'm happy for and support those who choose to leave LP Gas ON with open flame fridges or furnaces operating when driving where crashes can and do happen,,,,,,,,,, and likewise support those who choose to turn it OFF when driving. THANKS FOR ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED TO SUCH AN EDUCATIONAL DISCUSSION. I sure learned from it and hope others have also, what a great Forum and service to us all.......................... Its a bit early, but still let me wish everyone a Happy and Blessed CHRISTmas. John T
  13. Good or Bad Idea?

    Pat and Pete, and jc, Years ago I found that even if I did a good job of blowing out the lines and even if I managed to get all the water out of low spots (for the time at least), over a long winter and temperature changes and freezing and thawing moisture would condense and settle in low spots grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. After that I got into the habit of pumping anti freeze throughout the system and since then never had a freeze up. For 10 years now I "half time" in which case I don't need to winterize because I leave in October lol Fun chattin with you, take care n be safe John T
  14. Good or Bad Idea?

    THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS JC Yall take care, be safe, make wise decisions and I support anyones right to choose how he operates his own RV. I made my choices and yall make yours and I'm sure not here to try and stop you !!!!!!!!! John T
  15. Good or Bad Idea?

    ND, I fully support your (even if over safe) decision and likewise other decisions. As a 47 year RV user, engineer and an attorney who has been made aware of all sorts of accidents and liability, I'm pretty much "wired" the same way as you and many RV users, better safe and even OVERsafe then sorry. Welcome here, best wishes and God Bless. John T
  16. 50 amp power management

    PA, good question. I agree with jc. Typical RV pedestal "50 amp" power can supply up to 50 amps on "EACH" leg, L1 & L2, which is why a 25 amp current draw wouldn't trip a 50 amp circuit breaker. Its NOT that you have ONLY 25 amps capacity on each leg. NOTE I'm talking about the pedestal distribution NOT anything about your power management system. Your RV power distribution is divided up among two legs of 50 amp capacity 120 VAC which in theory is good if kept balanced so no one leg is providing ALL your needs, but just because certain loads just happen to be operating that just happen to be served by one leg isn't necessarily cause for alarm PROVIDED THAT ALL ELSE AND THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IS DESIGNED AND OPERATING CORRECTLY. I make no comment on the capacity of your power management system and if it can handle 50 amps per leg etc., but its good and safe to be aware of and concerned with power use and how its divided (hopefully somewhat balanced to some degree) in your rig. PS is this what you have ??? http://tweetys.com/electrical-management-system-hardwire-50.aspx John T Longggggggggggg retired and rusty electrical engineer so NO warranty
  17. Good or Bad Idea?

    dzwiss, that's a possibility as with no water present to extract and transfer heat off the heating element IT CAN OVERHEAT BIG TIME and if its turned on as in the spring BEFORE filled with water OUCH lol A person could describe that as being "burned out" I guess ......... That tracks with what NDbirdnam was told "I was told it was burned out, they said common occurrence in the spring when folks bring them out of storage for first time summer use " That does "possibly" sound like a BURNED OUT ELEMENT versus a "fire" but its hard to say based on limited information, so darn if I know ???? I'm NOT saying one way or the other, I wasn't there lol Very fun and informative thread ............... John T
  18. Good or Bad Idea?

    I (NO LP Gas expert) found this topic so interesting I took the time to research it a bit further and found a few (of the literally hundreds) "interesting" articles (NOT by me, its their opinion NOT necessarily mine) I've linked below. As I always say when it comes to decisions regarding life safety and risks (and their degree and probability) its a persons RV, its their life, and its THEIR OWN FREE CHOICE WHICH I SUPPORT concerning how they choose to operate their RV. If anyone disagrees with these articles take it up with the authors NOT ME, I'm only the messenger. I make my OWN informed decisions regarding life safety and hope others do the same. To each their OWN choices, who are these people or even "experts" to tell us how to operate our RV's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its my life NOT theirs !!!!!!!!! https://rvshare.com/blog/dangerous-use-propane-gas/ https://www.aisinsurance.com/products/recreational-vehicle/rv-articles/traveling-with-propane.aspx http://www.doityourselfrv.com/is-it-dangerous-to-run-an-rv-propane-refrigerator-while-driving-your-rv/ http://roadtreking.com/rt62-need-know-propane-driving-rv/ http://www.rvdoctor.com/2010/12/propane-on-while-driving-rv-oh-boy.html Hope these help, I for one found them (as well as several others not listed here) quite informative and interesting. Best wishes and God Bless all, keep safe now especially over the CHRISTmas holiday driving season John T
  19. Good or Bad Idea?

    Al, THATS EXACTYL RIGHT (especially when you said "any vehicle").......... Ive been driving BOTH my Honda as well as Motorhome here in Austin Texas lately and watching the news there's an accident like daily. Keep safe yall and take as many safety precautions as reasonably possible is my advice in your car, trucks and especially RV's God Bless n keep safe John T
  20. Good or Bad Idea?

    Right, just sell them to ENEMIES lol Heck tell him people have been injured climbing out of bed or into the tub, living and breathing may be hazardous to your health !!!!! That dude best sell it if he's afraid to use it. FWIW I was a used RV dealer and drove motorhomes while running the furnace and I NEVER had an accident "as a result of doing that" either............I'M VERY GLAD ALSO, some were expensive rigs LOL Fun discussion, yall take care now, keep safe n God Bless John T Still in the RV in Austin Texas where its been in the seventies yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
  21. Good or Bad Idea?

    Good afternoon Kirk, to answer your question, in 47 years of continual RV use I just don't know "how much risk is there" like I said it "may or MAY NOT be". As I noted its a persons free choice regarding what risks they are willing to take or not. I do know if there were flames or sparks from a road accident Id prefer NOT to have a busted line spewing out LP Gas. To each their own life and safety choices and what degree, albeit small, of risks they are willing to take on. Some may choose to use LP Gas appliances when driving down the road and some may prefer for safety reasons (regardless of the risk or degree or probability) NOT, and that's perfectly fine with me. To each their own. John T
  22. Good or Bad Idea?

    Macintyre GREAT QUESTION. In the past over years and years, I like so many others, have operated LP Gas appliances while driving down the road in several different makes n models of motorhomes and NEVER had a problem (but was never in a crash with sparks or flames either). Although, I suspect on some units the wind and air flow might extinguish the flame in which case built in safety control features can close off the units gas valve. That being said, as I a retired engineer grow older and less willing to take any "reasonably avoidable" risks and become more and more safety conscious, I no longer run LP Gas appliances when driving, and to be even safer I turn the gas OFF at the tank. In the event of a crash and sparks or flames its just safer if gas is OFF at the tank versus busted gas lines spewing out gas WELL DUH !!!!!!!!!!! Sooooooooooo 1) Will it work ?? Probably YESSSSSSSSSSSSS and likely never a problem. 2) Is it as safe as not operating a gas appliance while driving with gas OFF at the tank NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, another WELL DUH. This is strictly a persons free choice NOT what any of us think. What risks one person is willing to take while others are not rests on the user alone REGARDLESS how much of a risk it "may or may not" be and REGARDLESS what a dealer or salesman suggests. NOTE I'm NOT saying how "safe or unsafe" it may be orrrrrrrrrrr if its "recommended or not recommend as safe", I'm ONLY saying its safer when driving in the event of a crash and sparks and/or fire IF GAS IS TURNED OFF................ Its YOUR RV,,,,,,,,,,, its YOUR life,,,,,,,,,,,,, its YOUR risk,,,,,,,,,,,,, so do your homework and make YOUR own informed decision REGARDLESS what we or dealers or salesmen may think. Just because someone here "does or does not" travel "with gas on or off" or operates gas appliances doesn't mean its right for you in your particular rig. God Bless all here, keep safe now John T
  23. Water heater won't light/ stay lit

    CONGRATULATIONS and thanks for the update and feedback. Indeed if it wasn't the "sparker"/ ignitor, or a connection or voltage problem (easy CHEAP things I always try first) it was the more expensive grrrrrrrrrrrrrr circuit board lol MURPHYS LAW PREVAILS. I've also had to buy those boards myself when all else failed........... John T
  24. GPS When is it time to replace?

    My absolute favorite thing about Garmin is their customer service. When I call I usually,,,,,,,,,,,,,Get a direct answer instead of recorded instructions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The tech spoke clear fluent ENGLISH,,,,,,,,,,,,Said she was in Kansas (NOT Pakistan),,,,,,,,,,,,,,Her name was NOT Habib,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Provided excellent help. While you can easily get map updates online, as the products advance they have better features so its been my experience maybe every 3 or so years its time to upgrade to a new device. That all being said, when the wife uses Google Maps on her I Phone, it seems better (more detailed and advance direction as to whats next and whats the next turn direction etc) then Garmin ??????????????? John T
  25. That's exactly right Kirk !!!!!!!! Let the bag "breathe" and be allowed to vent for the reasons I indicated UNLESS, of course, submerged ........... Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving PS Approximately haw far are you from Coleman Texas?? If I get there before I leave the State that may be the closest I get to your place to visit ??? John T