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    Computers, RVing, Geocaching, Finding the perfect bottle of wine we can afford.

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  1. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    Do you live in Arizona? What you might or might not pay somewhere else has nothing to do with how things are handled here. If you rent and apartment, then the landlord owns both the site and the building. You rent an RV site, the landlord does not own your RV. In Arizona an RV on a lot will be taxed as personal property if it is there all year long. Personal property taxes are different from 'property taxes' associated with owning a house/lot. I'm not sure why people have such a hard time understanding that there are all kinds of different taxation regulations across the country.
  2. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    There are a lot of people in the Mesa area who have their 5ers on a lot in an RV park, for six months, THEN move that RV to a storage lot, often in another county, for six months. They are then not renting on an annual basis, so RV park does not show them being there year round.
  3. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    So Yuma, or the county it is in, isn’t as active as the Maricopa County collectors. The city/county don’t provide as many services, etc. so aren’t as aggressive. I’m not sure I understand your point.
  4. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    TwoToes, you are asking why a DWELLING is taxed when an unused Harley isn't? Is a vacant house taxed even though no one is living there? The person is paying rental fee to an RV park for the lot (or has purchased the lot) and thus will be taxed accordingly. If they don't want to be taxed as a DWELLING then they need to get the rig on the road for part of the year. It really is quite simple once you remember that you are talking about a DWELLING and not a bike to ride down the road.
  5. Barbaraok

    How's the weather in your 'neighborhood' ?

    The rain is needed in SoCal and AZ, plus this will mean beautiful desert wildflowers in a few weeks.
  6. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    It would be in the park's interest to provide requested information. After all, they do collect it as a matter of course so that they know how many people they have each day and where they are parked. For instance, the park wants to be able to accurately report number of people in the park in the summer so that trash costs can be reduced for the months that there are fewer people in the park. In addition, parks have to be able to show their mix of transient versus continuous occupied (at least in AZ) in order to keep their zoning status and not become a 'mobile home park' and not a 'campground' zoning. All governing entities need funding. How they go about it may be different, but it isn't a plot to get anyone, nor is anyone required to visit a place that they disagree with how the funding is done. I am more than happy to pay our personal property tax in Arizona so that we can enjoy our winter stays and still enjoy our summer sojourns throughout the rest of the country. The EMS response alone in Mesa (which we have witnessed respond to neighbors) is worth more than what we pay and we have never used it!
  7. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    Our PM has wheels, but it is stationery, registered in AZ as personal property and we pay taxes (~$100 ) each year. If the 5er doesn’t move, but has Oregon plates, he’s paying taxes to Oregon, correct? Since it is AZ, should be paying to AZ.
  8. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    You are allowed to own/rent property in a state and not live there. We have a park model in Arizona, but it isn't occupied over 7 months a year. Now if we left a car here (as so many do) then we would have to register the car in Arizona. Again, having a vehicle registered in a state doesn't make you a resident of that state if it is being registered where it is garaged.
  9. Barbaraok

    Taxation w/o representation

    You have 7 months you can stay as a visitor in Arizona. If you are there longer, why shouldn't they consider you a resident? I think AZ is being extremely generous. All states have a certain number of days of continuous living at which point you become a resident. Not a money grab, you are using services, why shouldn't they consider you as a resident?
  10. Barbaraok

    Rose Colored Glasses

    There really are two groups of younger fulltimers, at least from my prospective, those who have jobs that make fulltiming advantageous (remote work, big construction jobs, traveling nurses, etc) and those who can not afford a house and are living on very meager means. For a lot of these people, Social Security is viewed as something they will never get. They don't see themselves every being able to retire, but just working until they drop dead. Are the young unrealistic at times - they wouldn't be young if they weren't. I'm sure a lot of people shook their heads when we headed out, married 3 months (ages 21, 22), heading for Ohio from the Seattle area with an old car barely holding together, getting 5 hamburgers for a dollar and keeping them warm on the dash, a few hundred in wedding/Christmas presents in our pocket, traveling across country between Christmas and New Years with snow storms at our backs, on the hopeful chance that Dave would have a graduate student stipend and I could get a job when we got there. He did, I did, we managed to get into married student housing at Miami U, and things did work out for us.
  11. So why did you put forth an example where MH are cargo? It wouldn’t matter what the load was, MH or Widgits, they are just CARGO being pulled by commercial truck. I didn’t read JohnM’s question to be about cargo. There are cases of MH Having to go through when they are being used in commercial applications, ie pulling trailers full of race equipment, or the example that Joel gave where it is a COMMERCIAL vehicle.
  12. Barbaraok

    How's the weather in your 'neighborhood' ?

    Tricky going out for morning walk before sun is totally up. Once sun is out, WARMS UP very quickly.😅
  13. Do you understand the difference between IN COMMERCE and personal use? The MH being towed would be in the weight area BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL TOW TRUCK DOING BUSINESS PULLING THE MH. I’m sorry for being strident, but what is so difficult about understanding personal use versus COMMERCIAL use?
  14. Barbaraok

    We did it! Soon to be on our way...

    Please believe everyone who is telling you to take it slow and DO NOT OVER PLAN. I know that you want to have everything planned out, but you can't. Instead try to focus on getting to some place for your first week. Then about 1/2 through that week, figure out where you will go the next week. Have a general destination and about when you want to get there, but otherwise, 'go with the flow'.
  15. Barbaraok

    How's the weather in your 'neighborhood' ?

    Yea, we're up the road in Mesa - sunny days, still a little cool at night.