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#1 steiny93

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:28 AM

new to me 2000 volvo 610

Is there any tricks to removing and replacing the front and door speakers?
The ceiling speakers in the sleeper appear not to be attached; I believe this is common and the leads are in the wiring harnass behind the radio (is that correct?)

I'm assuming (please correct if I'm mistaken)
- Doors are accessable after you remove the grills; the grills appear to have tabs which you depress and then can take off without taking the door apart
- Fronts will require some dash removal; looks like you start on the top of the dash and work your way down


Does anyone happen to know the size of the factory speakers or suggestions as to what would be good replacements? If possible I would prefer to order the new ones and have them onhand as I start the removal of the existing speakers?

I searched this forum but didn't find a thread on the topic; if I missed something please let me know
Any intel much appreciated,
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:12 AM

I changed out the speakers on my 2001 770, don't remember running into any major issues. I now have a broken cover on the drivers door that I don't know how it happened but hopefully can get it replaced soon.

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#3 Mark & Dale Bruss

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:03 AM

On my site is Gen I schematics so you can see where the radio wiring harnesses go. Do not assume that all wiring harnesses are present in VNL 610's. Most VNL 770's came with all the harnesses present but not the lower cost models.

The door speakers are 6-1/2" and thinner than many of the after-market speakers. I can't remember if I took the door panels off to release the speaker covers.

The dash speaker have a snap off the cover, then you remove two screws at the upper edge of the bracket.

The speaker connectors are GM style.

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#4 steiny93

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:26 AM

i played with the door grills; they just snap off so all goodness there; awesome news regarding the dash speakers this should be super easy

thx for the intel

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#5 oscarvan

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

this should be super easy


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#6 suncatalyst

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:23 AM

im getting ready to change speakers on my '98 VNL 610.

*I* got speakers in all 3 locations on mine(dash,doors,roof in the sleeper)

gonna pull mine apart and measure depth and sizes and see what Good aftermarket
Speakers ill be putting in mine.

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#7 steiny93

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:33 PM

suncatalyst,
yup;
I have speakers in the sleeper as well; my plan is to leave those for connection to the tv in the sleeper
let me konw what you end up using for the aftermarkets; i'll do the same

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#8 suncatalyst

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:46 PM

steiny93,

ill be working on figuring out what i want after work today and
all day tommorrow.

i tend to over research things and do it only ONCE even if its
more expensive. i dont like having to go back and do it a 2nd time.

ill be using one of the audio outputs from my TV in to a input
on my Kenwood Deck so i can listen to the tv in the sleeper on any
arrangement of speakers i wish... or have the XM up front , or CD player
or whatever mixed...

im sure ill end up using dynamat on the floor before its said and done.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

I just replaced all of my speakers in the Volvo with 2-Polk 651S's, 2-651's and 2-351's in the dash. All speakers in the Volvo's are Delco's. I had to do some fabrication on the dash speakers because the mounting holes are arranged different than any speaker I could find. The bottom of the speaker has a bent tab to hook into a hole and the top has bolts at 11:00 and 1:00. This spacing is difficult to find. I already had ordered the Polks so I just made due with what I had. The doors and sleeper replacement went fine. I did order the speakers for the sleeper with the 6 3/4 adapter ring which was necessary to get them to fit.There was a ring behind the old speakers that you can use a self tapping screw on and not penetrate the roof as there is about 2" of clearance. I do have to say that the sound improved 100% with this upgrade. I can hear things in the music I had not heard before. The tweeters really made a difference. The factory speakers are junk.
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#10 suncatalyst

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:34 PM

Pacecar,

thanks for the treasure of info....

you have the 651S in the doors? and the 651 in the sleeper ceiling? or the other way around?

where you get the adapters from?

EDIT: prices arent very expensive on these... off to read reviews...

Factory speakers are ALWAYS junk.

Edited by suncatalyst, 06 May 2012 - 08:37 PM.

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#11 pacecar

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

Pacecar,

thanks for the treasure of info....

you have the 651S in the doors? and the 651 in the sleeper ceiling? or the other way around?

where you get the adapters from?

EDIT: prices arent very expensive on these... off to read reviews...

Factory speakers are ALWAYS junk.


The S went in the sleeper. The opening was just outside of the mounting holes for the 6 1/2's. The S from Polk comes with the adapter (6 3/4") to be able to screw it to the ring in the top and mount the speaker to the ring. You have to remove a few tabs on the ring to get it to fit.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:22 PM

Thanks for the fast response pacecar.

id ALMOST be tempted to do the Polk Components and pillar mount the Tweets... BUT
the speakers are too far back and down in the doors and seats blocking them , it
would probably be a waste and would be too Muddy for my ears.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

If you intend to dynamat the floor I would do the entire interior. It will be worth it. Add some insulation too, while you have it apart. It is not real hard to strip down. In relative terms....The Volvo is relatively quiet compared to other HDTs...BUT the dynamat and insulation will make a big difference.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:36 PM

i Do intend on doing Dynamat on the Floor and Walls and anywhere i can get to... Expensive YES... worth it YES...
and also new insulation too...

also have plans of pulling the doghouse and dynamatting it and adding the firewall stuff back on over the dynamat.

lots of Fun projects to finish...

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#15 steiny93

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:47 PM

per the intel above i ordered a pair of 651's and 351's for the doors / fronts

the 651's fit behind the factory grills but you need to do some trimming with a dremel (there is a plastic cone deally that you need to cut off)
the grill fits but its right against the tweeter; the 651s would likely fit better

will get to the 351's either late tonight to tomorrow

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:02 AM

i ordered 1 pairs of the Polk DB651...NOT the S model for the sleeper

i ordered 1 pair of the Polk DB6501 for the doors and the Pillar.
should help get the Soundstage MORE back where it should be . wont solve it but
will help.

Dash speakers will be disconnected and wiring extended up into each pillar for the tweets
and crossover box Tied into factory wiring behind the dash.

just waiting on everything to arrive and then let the party begin...


i got to listen to Both sets...the DB651 and DB651s and theres a Difference for sure in Sound.
the specs are a hair different too..
then decided to listen to the DB6501's... gonna be sweet when done.

Edited by suncatalyst, 11 May 2012 - 02:04 AM.

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#17 steiny93

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:21 PM

just spent a few hours in the hdt with the 651's in the doors and the 351's in the dash
definately much louder and clearer but pretty lacking in the lows


all in all; for the money well spent; but in absolute need of a sub to round out the audio; happy with the upgrade but not done

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#18 Mark & Dale Bruss

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

just spent a few hours in the hdt with the 651's in the doors and the 351's in the dash
definately much louder and clearer but pretty lacking in the lows


all in all; for the money well spent; but in absolute need of a sub to round out the audio; happy with the upgrade but not done


You need a 12V powered woofer.
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:39 AM

You need a 12V powered woofer.


My 780 has a factory sub. Don't know more than that yet, but we are going to do some enhancements this summer and will report back.

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