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#1 trike12

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:07 PM

That is typical NIMBY attitude. Spending cuts everywhere except congressional pay and benefits.
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 08:50 PM

McCain has been anti-Vet for a long time. That's all I'll offer on the subject.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 11:28 AM

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:28 PM

McCain has been anti-Vet for a long time. That's all I'll offer on the subject.

McCain forgot his roots, the minute he stepped off the plane back in the 70's. IMO, he is the true definition of a traitor, to his fellow retirees.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:52 PM

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:35 PM

We as American veterans really should be pushing for an amendment that places congress on the same retirement system (social security) and health system (Medicare) and cost increases as the rest of the American public. Why do we let them get away with their own system??
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:15 AM

Congress has been on the same retirement system and Social Security as all other Federal employees since sometime in the 90's.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 10:09 AM

Congress has been on the same retirement system and Social Security as all other Federal employees since sometime in the 90's.

Please pas whatever it is that you are smoking around...We all could be delusional then. Do your homework a little better, then come back and tell us about the retirement system and health care for congress. It is sure as hell NOT the same one I am under.

Edited by The Texan, 23 December 2011 - 10:10 AM.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:44 AM

Please pas whatever it is that you are smoking around...We all could be delusional then. Do your homework a little better, then come back and tell us about the retirement system and health care for congress. It is sure as hell NOT the same one I am under.


l'll accept your formal public apology. I said nothing about Congressional medical.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:55 AM

Please pass whatever it is that you are smoking around...We all could be delusional then. Do your homework a little better, then come back and tell us about the retirement system and health care for congress. It is sure as hell NOT the same one I am under.


So tell us what what the health care for Congress is, and how it differs from yours, and also how it differs from other Federal employees?

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 01:00 PM

As I said, they do not receive the same benefits I do, they have "enhanced" theirs plus try and find any info on changes made since the 2007 report, it has been buried, just like their insider trading authorization was, until someone dug deep. NO apology needed, just do some research.


But, on grounds that working in Congress means uncertain job security, elected members and their staffs receive a larger retirement benefit from FERS for each year of service than other federal employees. They also become eligible for a retirement annuity at a younger age and with fewer years of service.

Congress members do receive some medical benefits beyond those available to regular federal workers.

In addition, current members (but not their dependents) can receive medical and emergency dental care at military hospitals and clinics. Inpatient care is covered by FEHBP insurance, but outpatient care is free if it's performed at facilities in the national capital region, such as Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland or Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District of Columbia.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:36 PM

As I said, they do not receive the same benefits I do, they have "enhanced" theirs plus try and find any info on changes made since the 2007 report, it has been buried, just like their insider trading authorization was, until someone dug deep. NO apology needed, just do some research.


But, on grounds that working in Congress means uncertain job security, elected members and their staffs receive a larger retirement benefit from FERS for each year of service than other federal employees. They also become eligible for a retirement annuity at a younger age and with fewer years of service.

Congress members do receive some medical benefits beyond those available to regular federal workers.

In addition, current members (but not their dependents) can receive medical and emergency dental care at military hospitals and clinics. Inpatient care is covered by FEHBP insurance, but outpatient care is free if it's performed at facilities in the national capital region, such as Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland or Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District of Columbia.


Got a link to support your statements?

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:46 PM

The ABC TV news program highlighted the medical clinicsin the congressional building. The justification was, it more than paid for itself from the time saved by congressmen not having to go elsewhere for medical attention.
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 08:21 AM

The ABC TV news program highlighted the medical clinicsin the congressional building. The justification was, it more than paid for itself from the time saved by congressmen not having to go elsewhere for medical attention.


That takes care of the medical part of Texan's accusation. I'm still waiting for his proof about their retirement and apology from him for saying I'm smoking something good and don't know what I'm talking about.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:19 AM

Brianwl; this appears to support your position: FactCheck.org
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 07:13 PM

As I said, they do not receive the same benefits I do, they have "enhanced" theirs plus try and find any info on changes made since the 2007 report, it has been buried, just like their insider trading authorization was, until someone dug deep. NO apology needed, just do some research.


But, on grounds that working in Congress means uncertain job security, elected members and their staffs receive a larger retirement benefit from FERS for each year of service than other federal employees. They also become eligible for a retirement annuity at a younger age and with fewer years of service.

Congress members do receive some medical benefits beyond those available to regular federal workers.

In addition, current members (but not their dependents) can receive medical and emergency dental care at military hospitals and clinics. Inpatient care is covered by FEHBP insurance, but outpatient care is free if it's performed at facilities in the national capital region, such as Bethesda Naval Hospital in Maryland or Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District of Columbia.


You are correct that members of Congress do have a somewhat enhanced retirement. You left out the fact they are required to put a larger percentage of their pay into the system and that they are penalized a percentage of their retirement if they elect to receive benefits before they would normally become eligible.

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