TedSchwink Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Our TT came with nitrogen in tires . Is there any reason that we need to continue topping off with nitrogen or can we just use air since air is 70 % nitrogen? If the tire is rated for and recommended to be 65 PSI by TT mfg , what PSI to air to when cold . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcharrette Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 When we bought our TT 2 years ago the mechanic told us we had nitrogen in the tires but could top off with air anytime. According to him it is no problem and we've had no trouble at all. Randy Charrette 2014 Kodiak 240BHSL www.pedaladventures.com (our travels) www.axelproject.com (our non-profit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Does your trailer climb to 40,000 feet and encounter -40 degree temperatures and then land on 120 degree runways? If it does, then nitrogen is for you. Otherwise there is no benefit to nitrogen in vehicle tires that justifies the cost. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ordinary air is fine and is what nearly all of us are using. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The great thing about nitrogen filled tires is if you travel at 30,000 fett elevation and extreme cold and extreme heat. The bigget benifit is to the dealer selling the nitrogen refills...lots of money in his pocket. Otherwise just use plain old compressed air. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Keeps moisture out of tires. Only benefit i am aware of 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Folks Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nitrogen has benefits in tires used for air craft or race cars. For a vehicle at normal speeds, it serves no practical purpose. It is a profit center for the tire seller. If it makes you feel better, spend the money on it. It won’t hurt, but remember that it is not as easy to find 100% Nitrogen for bring tires up to pressure. Normal air contains 78% Nitrogen, so is it worth it for an extra 22%? I think not. The next time I tow my trailer at 200 MPH or it has the name “Boeing” on it, I will use nitrogen. Camping Rig: 2005 Dodge 3500 - Dually- Cummins 2006 Outback 27 RSDS Two rescue dogs: A Catahoula mix & a Chihuahua mix. Fulltimer since 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis M Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The definitive analysis Bottom line a waste of money. Dennis & NancyTucson, AZ in winter, on the road in summer.1999 Volvo 610 "Bud" 425 HP Volvo, Super 10 spd.2005 Mountain Aire 35 BLKS2013 smart fortwo CityFlame riding on Bud(Replaced '05 smart first loaded in '06 and '11 smart that gave it's life to save me!)Our Travel Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsallyh Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Amen to what Mark and Dale Bruss posted. Kind of goes along with Scotchguard and undercoating. Having worked race car tires in the pits for a number of years, bleeding off the air Goodyear used when mounting, then putting in nitrogen, the reason this was done was to keep the chassis dynamics the same(as close as possible) during a green flag run. Trying to keep the pressure build-up to a minimum. As far as I am concerned, airplanes and race cars only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimalberta Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The psi rating on tires is for cold tires.....always check them and adjust them cold. <p>....JIM and LINDA......2001 American Eagle 40 '.towing a GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 with RZR in the rear. 1999 JEEP Cherokee that we tow as well. IT IS A CONTENTED MAN WHO CAN APPRECIATE THE SCENERY ALONG A DETOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Cold meaning not moved more than a mile, not thermometer degrees. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedSchwink Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I assume no need to purge nitrogen from tire . Just start using air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skp51443 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just start using air BUT make sure it is DRY air, water in an RV tire is not a good thing. We carried our own small compressor so we'd be assured of clean, dry air, a search here will turn up several discussions with comparisons and recommendations. Google search string to search just these forums for air compressor: site:http://www.rvnetwork.com/ "air compressor" https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.rvnetwork.com%2F%20%22air%20compressor%22&es_th=1 First rule of computer consulting: Sell a customer a Linux computer and you'll eat for a day. Sell a customer a Windows computer and you'll eat for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce t Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I took our nitrogen filled tires to NTB and they looked at me as though I had two heads. I don't. They told me to take our vehicle back to the dealer as we even had different valve stems. We couldn't use the 'standard' fitting that you find at most gas stations. All a ploy to get money out of your pocket. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarvan Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Aircraft tires have N2 as it is inert, which is a good thing if you have an overheated brake/tire and blow a fuse plug on the tire. Don't see this as an issue on an RV. As has been said. Profit center for dealer. Previously a 2017 Forest River, Berkshire 38A, "The Dragonship". https://dragonship.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-n-Dennis Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Y'all need argon in the tires. Its the exact same gas used between windows for better insulation and sound cancelling. By using argon you: Keep your tires cool All road noise vanishes as the argon gas muffles and cancels out sound I also have 1000 used paperclips for sale. Better than new ones as each and every one has been tested in the field. Just $10 per 100 count or take %20 off $80 for the whole 1000. What a steel. Berkshire XL 40QL Camphosting and touring Our blog: cndtravels.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjstough Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Better get your nitrogen in your tires before the price goes up because of the increased demand. Paul 2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 The air you are breathing is about 78% Nitrogen when the tires were mounted on the rim. Since there is no way to remove all the air from the tire while on the rim without collapsing the tire and introducing more air. No-one is actually getting 100% Nitrogen in there tires anyway-so that is an outright lie. Nitrogen acts exactly the same in your tire as normal air; Boyles Law governs expansion rates of all gasses. What does make the difference is as Stan said, moisture in the air. One must have an air dryer on their compressor outlet to greatly reduce moisture getting into the tire. Some say Nitrogen has larger molicules that cannot pass through the tire inner-liner as easy as air. Well, if that is true,and you keep topping off your tires with dry air, eventually you wind up with a tire containing almost 100% Nitrogen. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I think some of the rationale for using nitrogen inside tires under pressure is its lack of oxidative damage which is exacerbated by oxygen under pressure. Oxidation from outside is the reason for date stamps and the wisdom of changing tires more than five years old. Oxidation occurs despite their sitting still. Dry rot if you will, as oxygen leaches out some of the chemical constituents by oxidation. Fill your tires now as if it gets picked up by Oklahoma for executions by inert gas asphyxiation, the cost will likely increase. I just had a morbid thought. If we go to all electric cars no one can end it all with CO easily. Guess they'll have tires though. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I assume no need to purge nitrogen from tire . Just start using air. You assume correctly. I think that the majority of us just carry our own compressor. Nothing complicated at all involved. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotoes Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Make sure you also change your tire air from winter air to summer air when you take your RV out of winter storage. And make sure you check your blinker fluid too. 2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition 2021 Harley Street Glide Special Fulltimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEagle Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 A tire manufacturer's answer. http://www.michelinman.com/faq-detail.page?categoryName=Tire_Care_and_Maintenance&faqId=1D87B0CC27A30001BAD114A01900E2B0 FastEagle Everest 363K 38'Dodge DRW 3500 Turbo DieselUSN Retired - DOD Retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Guys.........hush-up......I don't want my old tractor to hear about air or the N-gas........it has had liquid filled tires for 31 years....ya same tires.......Good-somethings as I recall......... no, we don't drive these old tires very fast anymore...... Cheerz Dollytrolley 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedSchwink Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Thanks everyone. I carry a compressor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydehunter1 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 we were just looking at new cars in Las Vegas and every car we looked at had nitrogen in the tires at a cost of 195.00 add on ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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