JPL Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I went to the Richmond NASCAR race yesterday and saw a M/H with a trailer that looked a mile long. I started pacing it off. I got 80 Feet. Then the owner came by to get in the side door of the Big trailer. It looked like a variety of parts. I asked how long and he said 85'. So I asked him if he ever got stopped. He said Calif was tough but he got a ticket in Texas. He said that he had been towing there 5 years an not stopped but then he got a ticket there and it cost him $500. He said he figured he broke even. He now stops and gets a over length permit. Big5er did you get him? Does he have to post a banner or anything w/ the permit. I didn't ask if he was in anyway commercial. Keep an eye out for him cause he sounds like he follows the race season. I was sitting in turn 4 watching a great finish to that race! Pat The Old Sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Pat I was listening on MRN and thought I heard you screaming on that last lap! Lol Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEasy Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Pat, Deb and I were there! We and friends have 5 lots together in Lot F. Makes enough room to circle the RVs and still have enough room for a big tent in the middle. Looks like there may be a conflict with the ECR next year based on the proposed dates. Chet & Deb '01 Volvo 660 w/ Smart '19 Forest River Columbus 320RS 5th wheel 2022 Chev 2500HD Long Bed Retired CWO4, USN and federal service Electronics Tech/Network Engineer/Welder/Machinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I don't think he qualifies for an over length permit. All states require the load to be broken down to its smallest parts in order to qualify for a permit. In this case they would simply require him to pull the trailer with a shorter tow vehicle, a regular sleeper tractor for instance instead of a 40' bus or motor home. If he gets the permits, he would have to follow all of the requirements for whatever state he is in, he has to have a separate permit for each state. All would require signage, some would require yellow revolving lights(which require a separate permit to operate in GA and NV). Some would only let him operate daylight hours, some would prohibit weekend travel, and all kinds of arcane rules depending on the state. Typical race type, skirting the non-commercial/commercial thing and making up the rules as he goes along. Just because he hasn't gotten busted doesn't mean he is legal. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkoenig24 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 "Just because he hasn't gotten busted doesn't mean he is legal. " AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 LOL, there ain't no telling Pat, but anything is possible. I nail a lot of racers passing through here. Jeff is right about needing a shorter truck to avoid the permit, but the clerks at the DMV are like anyone else. Just tell em what you want and half of them will give it to ya. LOL MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Big 5er Could you post a map of your territory so we could bypass your area. Just could not resist. Safe travels. Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I usually work the eastern half of a county the size of Rhode Island Vern My work schedule is easier. I'm off on Sat/Sun/Mon. But the guy on the west side of the county likes to.write RV's tickets and he work Monday. Sat/Sun is your best bet hehe MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 delete "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 delete "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 We are planing a trip west through Texas next fall but we will not be going through Houston . But thanks for your info Big 5rer just in case someone could use it. Some day we can meet, just not in uniform Safe Travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 But the guy on the west side of the county likes to.write RV's tickets and he work Monday. Sat/Sun is your best bet hehe I was watching for your HDT RV-hating buddy when we left Harris County a couple of years ago. Had I known that he didn't work on Sundays, I wouldn't have bothered being concerned. As it turned out we left on a Sunday, not to avoid him, but because I had to get through Houston to get home, and I definitely wanted to avoid weekday traffic. Phil 2002 Teton Royal Aspen 2003 Kenworth T2000 - Cat C12 380/430 1450/1650, FreedomLine, 3.36 - TOTO . . . he's not in Kansas anymore. ET Air Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Sorta hard to bypass Houston sometimes but I will do my best after reading this. I'm not to popular now also so I better watch out 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Billr You get the race in Canada? Have you opened the CG yet? Hope you had a safe trip north. How did you like the finish? NeverEasy We just went up on the spare of the moment. I was able to get a 4 ticket pkg from Papa Johns. We parked on the street that runs straight int the vendor trailers. We were able to get out easy. No traffic issues back to Chesapeake. We are going to be in Sand Bridge for a week at a rental house. Can we get together? 757 646 1686. Big5er I always thought they had to have a banner saying O/S load or a chase car. Guess I was wrong. Oh well. 5er if we get thru Houston we'll meet up on a friendly meet! Have a great day an be safe. Pat The Old Sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 A permitted load for over weight or over dimensional will have many requirements depending on it's weight and dimensions, and depending on the state it is traveling through. And there is absolutely no uniformity to the regulations. Example. Occasionally you will see escort cars parked on the entrance ramp at the first exit over the state line. It is a 12' wide load, state X requires escorts on front and back, state Y may not require escorts at all. Permits these days are almost all generated by computer. A trucking company orders a permit thru a company that keeps track of the current DOT routing requirements for a given size load in a given state The permit agency figures the route and costs and orders the permit from the state, which usually issues it. Back to the OP, if Mr. Nascar is staying in the same state, or for every state he travels through he can contact the permit agency and get the permit issued, the computer doesn't know the difference. But if a LEO stops him, the permit is not valid because of the reasons described, no signage, load could be broken into smaller pieces. If it were just a matter of getting a permit for a big load, trucking companies would routinely put an extra say 25,000 lbs in a trailer, pay the $53 fee and move 50% more freight at a considerable savings( driver, fuel equipment etc). But safety and the roads would sure take a beating. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I usually work the eastern half of a county the size of Rhode Island Vern My work schedule is easier. I'm off on Sat/Sun/Mon. But the guy on the west side of the county likes to.write RV's tickets and he work Monday. Sat/Sun is your best bet hehe This is the reason I avoid Houston. It is not a joke that the western side of Houston is hostile towards RVers. Even if you are not over-length you may be pulled over. So my take on it is it is best to avoid Houston altogether. The downside to this is I only get to see Phil "occasionally". Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Pat, come on through and say "hi" if you ever get down this way. Mark and Dale Bruss tried to sneak through once and got caught. Mark thought it was strange when the cop walked up and asked Dale for a hug. MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan412 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 My company in Washington hauls double cement tanks and has over length permit for WA and OR no oversize sign or anything else required. Have to renew it every year 2011 Volvo D13 485/1750 Eaton 13 Speed 2016 Montana 3820FK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 And here I've been thinking the reason to avoid Houston was traffic... 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 And here I've been thinking the reason to avoid Houston was traffic... Nope, just avoiding "bear" hugs. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 When I'm going to Houston I'm gonna get a pilot car with yellow flashing light's and just say take me to Phil's Place.....the DP is getting warm. Rick & Carey,Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo Toyhauler Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850Brabus Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 When I'm going to Houston I'm gonna get a pilot car with yellow flashing light's and just say take me to Phil's Place.....the DP is getting warm. That's good! Don't hide. Go in Bold and Beautiful! Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry&Donna-AK Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Ha...we might go through Houston, one time, before we hook up the trailer. Planning Nanook version 2.0 Nanook "When we made ready to depart, after a few days, Nanook was beside himself with joy. Hudson Stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry&Donna-AK Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Talking about Over Length. We saw 2 of these crossing into TX from LA today. I suppose the word is out about Houston. Planning Nanook version 2.0 Nanook "When we made ready to depart, after a few days, Nanook was beside himself with joy. Hudson Stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Maybe I will get a car cover for the jeep and try to sneak through. Or wait for his retirement and take my chances Just need to be on the funny side today Safe travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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