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I thought it was interesting that they said something about dry camping for 7 days - it almost sounds like the trailer will use more power than the solar can produce. I’d either want more solar so I could dry camp indefinitely (as far as power goes) or have something that runs on propane. Having a trailer with its own propulsion makes sense if you have a TV that’s undersized power-wise. However, I noticed in one of the videos how much the back end of the TV squatted when the tongue dropped onto it - so what would be the tongue weight? Would it overload the rear axle of the TV? Can you use a WDH? I’ll always cheer on these innovative trailers and their technology - my ideal would be to be totally energy independent (both vehicle and RV) and a full-timer. Not sure I’ll see that in my lifetime.

So you are thinking of another move? We just moved a few hundred feet to a bigger apartment and moving seems to get to be more work with every passing year. We thought we were buying our last home when we left fulltime life but that has not turned out to be the case. And we are to a point of downsizing even with the vehicles. I believe that you are about 10 years younger than I so here's hoping that health treats both of you better than it has Pam.

I have a Gulfstream Conquest Super-C. This is built on a Chevrolet Kodiak chassis. One advantage I see is that unlike the van-based Class C, the front wheels are set out at full track width. There driveline is the 8.1 gasoline engine and Allison 4-speed automatic, just like my 2004 3/4-ton Suburban.

Those are really cool! Thanks for posted them Derek.

Topics can be pinned on the main page, but posts within topics, unfortunately, cannot be pinned. It would be best if someone would re-post that URL occasionally.

Kirk the prices were in the videos for both with or without motors and just battery packs to run the systems. No generators no noise either and 25% battery charging on sunny days for the Pebble Flow's built in solar roof.. Airstream partnered with Porsche on a battery powered Trailer/RV trailer. NO prices yet However Pricey is in the eye of the beholder. Just for comparison Airstream trailers without the batteries and with old fashioned propane and other systems identical to all the rest cost $100k and up. Flying Cloud® 28RB Starting at $117,500 The 28 foot Pebble flow with all the advanced systems starts at about the same and the larger L1 is just a bit higher. But for about $20k more motors can be added for all shown in the videos. When you find that Airstream price with Batteries and self-propelled versions I'd be interested in seeing that. Here is their page. https://www.airstream.com/configurator/tt/ BTW I just did an about face on the Ford EV Lightning. I test drove one last Friday and was impressed. the extended range XLT with everything we want is $52k before TT&L He brought it to our home to see if it could fit in the garage and no way with this house. With the hail here annually our cars are in the garage. So we are pricing Carport designs and checking the permitting and if allowed. We pretty much wanted to move anyway to a Ranch with no stairs and a much bigger garage, three car this time.

Same here Glenn. Aerodynamic does look different than a flat front acting like a sail. Saves some fuel or battery charge depending on the tow Vehicle.. I like the complete autonomy to boondock for up to seven days using heat or A/C, inductive cook top, coffeemaker, al at once without carrying any propane, or generators. I really liked the office desk in the Pebble Flow prototype that turns into a Murphy bed with no hassle. no curtains with glass that goes opaque at a touch of a switch. All for the price of a top tier Airstream trailer. I may take several years but with or without motors the modern appliance designs and forward thinking use of solar and batteries is amazing Especially the motors handling braking without brake controllers, and taking care of sway and braking on a hill within the motors themselves. It's all pretty new to me. I had to add a transfer flow diesel tank in the bed of my Ram 1 ton long bed dually to get the original range off load when towing. No more backing in and how about that magic hitch automatic hitching up?? 😮👍😉

The Pebble Flow The Pebble Flow Is the All-Electric, Stress-Reducing Camper Trailer of the Future from Motor Trend Magazine Dimensions Exterior length: 25’ Exterior width: 7’6” Exterior height: 8’8” The Lightship L1 Tesla Graduates Electrify the RV Industry to Infinity and Beyond With Lightship L1 Camper From Motor Trend Magazine Exterior length27 ft Exterior width8 ft, 6 in Exterior height, Road Mode6 ft, 9 in Exterior height, Camp Mode10 ft Interior height, Camp Mode7 ft, 6 in You best be really into the ecology and with very deep pockets since either of these small RVs will cost you more than $100,000 and you still need a tow vehicle. Does anyone know if Airstream has ever produced the Airstream eStream Trailer? I haven't seen anything about it for a year or more now.

I would not call it ugly. It is definitely different. If I was still in the market I would consider one.

Ugly....

So they're basically motorhomes minus a front axle and driving compartment.

Soon two new RVs are coming that have their own motors and are self-propelled so no reduction of range of any tow vehicle gas or electric. I believe they will redefine how RVs are built and come with and without motors. But the heating, cooling, cooking systems are radically new. No drapes because the windows go opaque at the touch of a switch. The stabilizers and steps all are automatic – just too many new inventions and design improvements to mention. Worth a look at what I consider the first improvement in RV systems in decades. Pricey too. Already beginning production now - The L1 Lightship is taking orders already. It is also an all-electric RV that powers itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8W4keDWb0 Here is the newest one, The Pebble Flow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmk5lCaPvII We towed a 36 foot 5h wheel RV for seven years of full-time living with a 1992 Dodge Ram 1 ton Diesel Dual rear wheel long bed diesel truck. It got almost 20 mpg with no load but dropped to 10mpg when the heavy trailer was being towed. So diesel and gas vehicles will lose a lot of range towing as well as EV cars and trucks, depending on the load weight and size. But those trailers had no engine or solar, just the old fashioned RV 5th wheel. The Pebble Flow above is in prototype so may be another two years before it comes to market.

Kirk, great observations. To get their perspective, I just created a poll in the Xscapers Facebook group. I'll report the results here in a few days. I think this will make a good article for the magazine! If anyone wants to talk in more detail, message me. Thanks!

Cleaned, vacuumed and scrubbed the vinyl floor in preparation for the trip to Crossville. Tomorrow I'll pack up all my tools and supplies and well be ready to go...

Registered, but it's not all that easy.

https://nationalhdtrally.org/registration/ I hope this is the link to registration to the 2024 Rally. If it is and someone can pin it to the top I think that would be good. Rod

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You can send me a private message through this platform. This will be listed elsewhere but for now we wanted to give Escapee members a heads up first.

Is there some way of contacting you?

Are you seeking help to move your fifth wheel to a different site in the same park, to relocate it on the pad it is on now, or possibly move it to a different RV park? You would likely get more responses if you shared more information.

Florida, Texas, and South Dakota are generally the most popular because none of the 3 have a state income tax, none have a time requirement for residency, they accept mail service addresses, and all have been RVer friendly, although it seems that SD is starting to restrict their voting rights. Several other states do ally use of a mail service to qualify as a resident such as Nevada who also has no income tax, and Oregon who does have income tax. As of today, nine states — Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming — do not levy a state income tax.

PICTURES TO FOLLOW For sale in Fredericksburg, TX 2019 DRV Mobile Suites 38RSSA, $93,495. Also available: 2019 Ram Laramie, dual rear wheels, 89k miles (5th wheel must sell first if separated). Original owners. 2024 Trailersaver BD5 air hitch We are the original owners of this 2019 DRV. We have loved her but it is time for us to downsize. Besides the standard quality of a Mobile Suites 5th wheel this RV has several upgrades which will interest you. MORryde Independent Suspension rated at 9,000 pounds each, with disc brakes. Upgraded ALCOA 17.5” wheels (larger than stock) Continental HTL2 J rated tires (installed 3/2023) SPARE is also ALCOA w/ Continental Professionally installed solar system 6- 120 watt solar panels (720w total) 6- 100 amp hr Battle Born Lithium batteries Magnum 2812 pure sine wave inverter, separate inverter for residential refrigerator Upgraded LAMBRIGHT recliners and sleeper sofa FlexArmor roof installed by RVRoof.com, in Denton, TX. This roof carries a lifetime no leak guarantee. Of course it has all of the other items that can be expected in a DRV Mobile Suites 5th wheel including: DISC BRAKES All weather package includes 2 40# propane tanks UPGRADED Mocha Cherry wood interior 2- Dometic roof A/C with heat pumps 6 point automatic hydraulic leveling Stacked Splendide washer and dryer King size bed Whirlpool residential refrigerator MCD Day/Night roller shades 3- remote controlled MaxxAir vents Microwave/convection oven Whole house water filter Propane oven 55” LG LED television w/ surround sound LED lights inside and outside Double stainless sink with Moen faucet 4 slide outs Porcelain flush pedal toilet (not a macerator or electric head) Electric fireplace Whole house central vacuum Ceiling fan Generator prep Power cord reel Built in surge protection We have been pulling this RV, trouble free, with our 2019 Ram Laramie crew cab 4x4. It is setup for towing with: 4.10 axle ratio (max towing group) Towing technology group 6.7 liter HIGH OUTPUT Cummins (1000 lb/ft torque) Auto level rear air suspension NEW Trailersaver BD5 hitch, installed 12/2023 Upgraded BILSTEIN shocks It also has the comforts of Laramie Level 1 Equipment group. The truck has a comprehensive vehicle service contract which is transferable and is good through May of 2026 or 100k miles We can sell the 5th wheel, truck and hitch as a package or separate but the 5th wheel will have to go first before we consider selling just the truck and hitch combo. We are a non-smoking couple and we have never had any pets in this RV. This will be available in May where it can be viewed by appointment in Fredericksburg, TX. Please let me know if you have any questions. If I missed anything I’ll edit the ad.

Wasn't really asking for investment advice, but about the experiences of those who contribute to this forum. I've found for the most part all members are honest, straight forward and supportive. The answer to almost any question can have "it depends" in it's reply. Thank you very much for your reply. Rod

Would a small inverter to power the 110vac use that much more power on just a Star Link Router? Rod

Remember what they say: "location, location, location" If you get it right, property will perform as well as the stock market without the markets, at times, wild gyrations. Your question is for investment advice - and the answer is "it depends".