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Barb,

Good luck! I already took my original money off the table, and a token $5k profit, leaving me 80% of my original shares when it hit high $90s. Our retirement is more than sufficient and medical becomes TriCare For Life in six days. Then all copay's are covered by TriCare as secondary to Medicare. However, they will take $115 a month out of my SS for part B!

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Lynn has a decent 401k account from which she will soon have to start taking the mandatory withdrawals. So all of that goes into other investments. She will be 65 in two years. We have been very fortunate in not having to gamble our retirement for investments. My Tesla investment was to me like the cost of $45k fishing boats, and another $10k of equipment for tournament fishermen. Tesla was our fun hobby, not our future at stake. But it has since grown to become "real money." On top of all that and our liquid assets, we are soon liquidating two properties, our 5 acres and the inherited five acres both with new and recent house. One has a 3 or 6kw grid connected Standalone solar system. (I haven't pulled that paperwork in a while)
We don't show off, or wear gold or other conspicuous consumption. We prefer to eat home, and have a state of the art Home theater like now, and wherever we move. Might be Costa Rica or Colombia. Failing to like them,after visiting and house/tax/medical/costs investigating, we might move to the Denver area.

I hope everyone can find their own amazing earner investment. 

My back appears to be getting even better, despite a setback, when I thought I'd over stressed it, so neither health or money are obstacles. We love our home but it's time to feather a new nest. Worst case we move back, from Central or South America, to Denver.

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 We ae still in but dang, we just got notice that we will once again be switched to a new advisor, that make 3 in the last 2 years. I think it's time for us to kick Edward Jones to the curb and make a switch. We have a meeting on Wednesday with the new guy but it sounds like he is pretty knew overall.

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The little town of 15000 population where I am from has 3 Edward Jones offices.   I know them all and have every reason to think they make a good living.   That right there tells me they charge toooo much.   Buy some index funds and don't look back.

 

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Tesla was trading at $327 earlier and now is still up $8.76 and trading at $322.83. Not bad for a $17 and $22.50 large block buy over five buys and only one share at $300 because I wanted a nice round number of shares and was at one share shy of a nice four figure number of shares. Somewhere between 1000 and 9999! WE are happy campers today.

:)B)

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Shorts need to stay away from Tesla:

"Tesla is most painful stock for short sellers in 2017"

Traders short selling Tesla's (TSLA.O) soaring stock have lost $3.7 billion this year, eclipsing the combined losses of traders shorting Apple (AAPL.O), Amazon.com (AMZN.O) and Netflix (NFLX.O).

The Palo Alto, California, company's stock has become a battleground between investors betting Chief Executive Elon Musk will revolutionize the automobile industry and skeptics who question his aggressive production targets.

Those conflicting views of the electric-car maker have deepened in recent weeks, with short sellers increasing their exposure even as paper losses mount and Tesla's stock hits new highs.

Short bets against Tesla have grown to $10.1 billion from $8.7 billion at the start of April, and during that time short sellers have racked up paper losses of $1.4 billion, according to S3 Partners, a financial analytics firm. Tesla's stock has climbed 15 percent in the same period and has surged 50 percent so far in 2017.

"You have your momentum guys riding this stock up and making a fantastic return, and the fundamental guys holding onto their shorts and building them and saying 'this can't continue' and waiting for the shoe to drop," said Ihor Dusaniwsky, S3 Partners' head of research.

"It's one of your classic yin and yangs on Wall Street."

Read the rest here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-stocks-idUSKBN17Y29O

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On 5/1/2017 at 2:29 PM, hdrider said:

We ae still in but dang, we just got notice that we will once again be switched to a new advisor, that make 3 in the last 2 years.

 

I would question any company that does this as it usually means that the advisor has left the company. Take a hard look at how you have done while with the company. Many people will choose and advisor and stick with him if successful, even when/if he changes companies. If he doesn't make you enough money to exceed what he is paid for his services, then he isn't worth the cost and a really good one should be able to make more for you than you could do yourself, even after he gets paid. If you are just investing in mutual funds and leaving your money where it is, then should you even have a money manager? 

Be careful when you take advice from others about how to manage your investments yourself and keep in mind that on a public forum anyone can claim to have made himself rich by managing his money himself no matter what is actually the case. We have all known people who constantly visit the casinos and claim to always leave as winners and self-investing is little different.

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"We We ae still in but dang, we just got notice that we will once again be switched to a new advisor, that make 3 in the last 2 years. I think it's time for us to kick Edward Jones to the curb and make a switch. We have a meeting on Wednesday with the new guy but it sounds like he is pretty knew overall."

i didn't know that EJ moved you to new advisors, I thought each office was an individually owned. There is no reason you couldn't move to another advisor who has been in business for many years. You can also move to a totally new investment company. Your investment stocks and funds should transfer without any tax issues. 

Remember, this is your money. If you don't like, trust, or agree with an advisor, just move your money. Read some investment books, Any. You don't have to do anything they recommend but you need to learn about investing.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On April 25, 2017 at 9:46 PM, RV_ said:

New high today closing at $313.79

Anybody else riding this long bull market?

Anyone with new investment ideas?

Maybe buy a few hundred Elo production slots and corner the market......

Some oil geeks in the old days would buy Gulfstream jet slots for a few mil and then resell the slot to the Presedents buddy's for a few mil more........maybe become the Musk of Elo.........

 

Invest on........(remember........the market always goes up.....almost)

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What do you mean by ELO? If you mean Elon's model 3 no reservations are transferable. You can reserve a maximum of 2

https://www.tesla.com/support/model-3-reservations-faq

If you mean Elio motors, that ship's sailed, I own a $100 T-Shirt and the City of Shreveport is angry. The Sheriff is on the news and tonight as well as this week it will be all over the news. I believe they are about to charge them 7 million dollars or some such for defrauding the city promising jobs three years ago. I lost one $100 reservation, my only investment loss. My funds, single stock and real properties are profitable.

But it would be great to see anyone deliver  something close to that Elio. I will be present live at the meeting with the Elio backer and Elio himself to answer to the city planning commission they misled for four years. If I remember correctly Elio sold all the manufacturing equipment for several million and he may owe that back to the city as well.

If you are talking about ELO, well the owner of that catalog, Jeff Lynn, is still very much alive and working. https://jefflynneselo.com/

Ramble on ................

 

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If any of you liked Bruno Mars Funk you up song, and can view Videos, this is absolutely great! Tesla was 2 bucks and change shy of closing at $350 today!

 

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Tesla hit $360 after hours today! crazy!

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Tesla closed at $380 today and this article says it will soon break through $400 and many expect it to go to $1000 a share.

From "The Street"

"Tesla is more like Amazon and Netflix than you think" : https://www.thestreet.com/story/14177976/1/tesla-isn-t-being-valued-like-an-automaker-but-instead-like-amazon-and-netflix-explains-jim-cramer.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

From Investor Place:

"Why Tesla Inc (TSLA) Stock Will Race to $400"

http://investorplace.com/2017/06/why-tesla-inc-tsla-stock-will-race-to-400/#.WUHgIilOmbg

From "Market Realist"

"Analysts’ Views on Tesla Stock as the Price Rally Continues"

"According to data compiled by Reuters as of June 13, 2017, about 29.0% of analysts covering Tesla (TSLA) have given the stock a “buy” recommendation. About 43.0% have recommended a “hold,” while 28.0% have suggested a “sell.”

These stock recommendations are based on the consensus of 21 Wall Street analysts currently covering Tesla"

http://marketrealist.com/2017/06/analysts-views-on-tesla-stock-as-the-price-rally-continues/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=feed&yptr=yahoo

1 minute 28 second Video from Yahoo Finance claiming Tesla may well go to $1000.00!

Tesla could rally to $1,000

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/todays-charts-tesla-could-rally-153157826.html

And now it begins. And I have the number of shares I wanted for it.

 

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It's another all time high. This is one of the longest, if not the longest, bull market in my memory. We are killing it. Model 3 is about to hit the streets, electric semi 18 Wheeler tractor coming soon, preview in September. Then the model Y. Gigafactory is online, and Solar roof tiles for Solar City.

His other company, Space X is about to launch a Falcon heavy rocket in the September- December time frame. Already routinely landing the rocket from orbital launches and reusing them. It's still privately held so I'm watching that from the investment persective too.

They are rapidly ramping up full autonomous driving and should be first in advantage winners. We'll see in the next two years.

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Rich and Sylvia just sent me these two articles on where we are currently on a stable Lithium Sulfur battery. I believe Musk will switch to any superior chemistry and this may be it.

I believe Lithium will be the mainstay battery but not Li-Ion chemistry, instead Lithium Sulfur. Lighter and with greater density. Little niggling stability issues are being solved as we type:

"Scientists have created a thin composite film that gives lithium–sulfur cells exceptional durability"
http://bit.ly/2toCyiX

and

"Berkeley Lab researchers’ surprising discovery is a major advance for low-cost, high-energy batteries"

http://bit.ly/2sros37

Lithium is a good bet.

Thanks Rich!

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The world will be ICE free by 2030. there is lots of room for investment in the batteries and the suppliers of the Lithium and Sulfur, and all of the systems it takes to refine them to raw material for batteries. Tesla may not have all of the BEV market, perhaps not even a majority of share. But 40% of all sales globally is a nice chunk. But they may end up a major battery supplier in addition to using the latest in their storage arrays.

BEVs is about a lot more than just the finished vehicle. As well there are opportunities in emerging VR hard and software. And a zillion next big things. Once you find out the next big thing is too late.

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"Are you still in"?  If you are fearful we're in a "bubble" or have jumped out already it's always good to take a look from "60,000 feet" for a different perspective.  I ran across this interesting article today:

http://www.ciovaccocapital.com/wordpress/

 

 

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Great post Ron, and the link with charts and videos reinforce my position. We'll see if we all are right. I hope everyone has the returns I have gotten when I took my money off the table and a small profit, and now am seeing more than $300k in that one holding of mine.

I bought one share at $300 because I had 999 shares and it is so much easier to do the math for 1000.

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Today the Dow 30, S&P500, and Nasdaq all hit new record highs.  Ten years ago today they did the same thing .... before they started a very major decline.  I remember that time quite well.  We had just sold our house and started our full time life.  Our investment portfolio was "underwater" for a number of years.  An interesting article brought back the memory today:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4088809-10-years-gone

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Ron: I started looking at lowering my stock portfolio last week and am at 55/45 stocks/ bonds as of this week. Was at 80/20. In looking at mutual funds it took most of them 4 years (from 2008 to 2012) to recover to the same point. I am not timing, just realizing that a crash and 4 years of recovery puts me into my middle 80's just to break even let alone have some profit. 

I will probably adjust some more next month or so. 

 

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Glad that my mutual funds didn't take 4 yrs to recover - more like 18 months. 

At the point where we are required to take RMDs and those are being invested in long term treasuries, so the stock/bond ratio is slowly inching downward.

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We are selling our combined 10 acres of properties and homes with solar here that are paid off with clear titles before another housing bubble bursts. Then buy when the crash happens in Colorado. We can live in a small A-frame or geodesic dome or foam snowball house. They are hard to sell and can be had cheap as a temporary deal. I am actually taking another look at missile silos but not truly seriously.

We bought scads of shares of four USAA funds from 2007-2008 while they were at rock bottom. Great time to buy and I had 100% of my high compensation position then as discretionary. We live fine off my retirement alone with all paid off and now with SS for us both taken at 62 we are also generating even more discretionary funds.

I am trying to come up with what I want to do with my Tesla shares. Keep them after they rise steadily to 2020, or sell now. I have had my ten bagger. I now need to see to preserving it all. I may cash in early if I find an interesting scenario. I don't like hard currencies at their current prices, and islands with self sustaining energy are not happening.

We'll see.

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Barb,

Thanks for the reminder. I have to see about when my SH has to start withdrawing her 401k. I avoided them because I wanted total discretion to keep them earning or cash in at my discretion and yes that cost a bit in tax but not all that much. I will look into treasuries etc too. Thanks.

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 Here’s one for you guys. In part of an inheritance that just came our way is an annuity that has matured that we can either transfer into our investment accounts or open an account with the holder and let it stay put for up to 5 years with a guaranteed 3% before having to take it out. Or of course cash it out which we won't do.

 Our first thought is that we have a couple accounts that are doing much better than 3% right now so moving it makes sense but the market is ripe for a “correction”. In that case we are thinking about leaving it sit at the guaranteed 3% until a correction happens and then make a move with it.

 Does that sound like sound thoughts in the current market?  (Oh crystal ball)     

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2018 Ram 5500

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2012 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited (SOLD)

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