Demax990

My project what do u think?

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My wife has her Durango. She follows me. Your post about 1/2 tons is slider hitch. But I have seen many with back glass broke or side dented.

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You should also mention what province you're going to register in. They're all slightly different in what they allow.

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16 minutes ago, Demax990 said:

Hmm it seems to be that I will be to long no matter how I cut it. 

Max.......Don't let a bunch of grumpy old geezers here on the forum get under your skin.......

Shucks..... I have a telescoping receiver hitch on the Trolly and one day I was TOOOOO-Lazy to get out and extend the hitch and now all I have to do is replace the funky ladder on the front of the toy hauler............Trolly did not break a sweat crinkling the ladder....

Don't let a bunch of geezers dampen your RV Dream ...........All it takes is plenty of $$$$$$ and time to fix the .....RV-DREAM at times.......

 

Drive on..........(HDT's  are great jackknife......... re-arrangers.....)

 

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Will you ever end up at 90 degrees, absolutely! All of us veterans have done it. Went into that parking lot that didn't allow for "gentle turn", Went into that campground and "didn't walk" that access road to get to your spot, followed the GPS which sent you via an idiotic "shortcut", etc., etc.

Trailers are either 96 inches wide or 102 wide, pin is in the center so from pin to side is either 48 inches or 51 inches, if you don't have that distance between the trailer side and the hitch pin, your trailer will not be happy, your car or motorcycle on the deck will not be happy, your truck cab will not be happy, your insurance company will not be happy, your wife might reconsider the wisdom of marrying you, etc., etc. If you have trailer with long forward pinbox you can get away with a pickup, if you do not try 90 degrees, which should be avoided like a plague anyway.

Typically there are three types of pinboxes on fifths

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Long forward pinbox, popular with smaller fifths, and most "forgiving" when pulling with pickups

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Angled pinbox coming forward, even with the front of the fifth, popular with medium size fifths

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Straight down pinbox under the trailer, mostly utilized in large and heavy trailers.

You can see that at 45 degrees turn the long pinboxes leave the most room between the truck and the trailer, or anything else on the deck.

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By the time you reach 90 degrees it doesn't matter what pin box you have, all three need half of the width of the trailer for clearance.  

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The trailer is 98" at the front 

measering on the trim so I need 48 at min 

 

how about a slider hitch with a Reese 5th airborne sidewinder pin box- slider 12" sliding,sidewinder 22" so then the hitch at 24" in the towing mode = 48" in the manoeuvring position then the deck can be 20' 6" and the truck only 33-34 feet long lol 

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3 minutes ago, Demax990 said:

The trailer is 98" at the front 

So you can have a 2" shorter bed length over the 102" wide trailer ((102-98)/2=2"). Will this be your last trailer? If not, then you may has well plan for the 102" wide trailer. Even so, it may make resale of the of the HDT better if it can handle any trailer.

The Yukon XL is a long vehicle for site seeing, you may want to look at a shorter vehicle. You can use the HDT for some site seeing, we have gone many places in ours. If you must have a longer second vehicle, you may need to look at the car hauler type of toyhaulers. We have hauled a Yukon XL in ours with some space to spare in our garage but there is very little space left in the living quarters area. Two people are tight and can survive for a month, but more would be hard for anything longer than a week or so. We are working on a design that would work for 4+ people for a longer period but it is still in the can it be built stage.

Dave

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Or triple tow it on a dolly/trailer or 4 down if that works with your make/model. Only allowed in about 28 states and still has overall length limitations (if you get stopped!). Hard to drive.

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Or I just say screw it and just use the truck for everything. Anyone do a 4 door conversion on a semi??? 

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You can get a Freightliner 4 door from the factory but they are not very common used.  I've seen a few of these on sites like horsetrailerworld.com  https://www.schwalbetrucks.com/

 

Nigel

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If I had the money I would but I don't have 150k laying around for a tow vechele. 

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11 minutes ago, Demax990 said:

Or I just say screw it and just use the truck for everything. Anyone do a 4 door conversion on a semi??? 

Demax990, we've been RVing for 42 years, last 10 with HDT. Whether it was pickups, MDTs or now HDT we never found it necessary to have anything but the puller as our "personal vehicle" when we were RVing. As we got older the RVing trips got longer and longer, like the entire winters in Florida (3-4 months) away from the ass freezing home in New Hampshire. We are not trying to discourage you, just trying to help you not to turn into a pretzel trying to do something that us "veterans", maybe thought about but then discarded as not too practical.

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I totally understand that's why I came to this site to see if it would work and I am seeing that I will be way to long for my liking. So we are just going to go back to using a HTD as our only vechele during our trips. 

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9 minutes ago, Demax990 said:

I totally understand that's why I came to this site to see if it would work and I am seeing that I will be way to long for my liking. So we are just going to go back to using a HTD as our only vechele during our trips. 

There are not as many out there but, Volvo, KW, FL, Pete etc made short nose trucks with small sleepers.     A truck like this has a cab and sleeper that is 13' nose to tail, with a 10' bed you are driving a crewcab size truck.    The picture above with the car on the dolly, that was Gene B truck, it is exactly what I suggest.     Unless you are doing a lot of entry and exits a four door is overrated.     Put a sofa with belts in the sleeper and you have a 5-6 pass truck.

 

Steve 

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Check out Gregg RVHaulers YouTube channel.  There is a video there from a couple of months aga titled something like Family of Six.  They are full timers and they use their truck as a daily driver.  A setup like theirs might work for you.

 

Nigel

 

 

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Some added a rear door to their HDT that was access from the Bed area. But that would mean you would need to arrange the seating in the back on the sidewalls which is probably not good.

Some HDT's do have a side door but it is really meant to be an escape door. I do not think they have steps but you could make some. We have carried 2 extra adults and a grandaughter along with a granddog in ours and we just  went in and out the passenger door. Windows in the back would be nice so you can see the country side and sites.

Dave

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My grandchildren,  everytime they come visiting, I have to take them for a ride. They love it. The view, being biggest and baddest on toad, lol.

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19 hours ago, Nigel said:

Check out Gregg RVHaulers YouTube channel.  There is a video there from a couple of months aga titled something like Family of Six.  They are full timers and they use their truck as a daily driver.  A setup like theirs might work for you.

 

Nigel

 

 

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Video referenced by Nigel above.

 

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On 7/17/2017 at 10:08 AM, Demax990 said:

I figured out what's going on and why it works. Semi trailers are the full width at the front of them. 5th wheel campers are not. The front of them are rounded and the Corners are big concave cutouts. So to get the full width I would have to be 2 feet  or so from the front. The pin boxes for them also extend slightly past the front as well making the pin location in front of the trailer. 

Some 5ers have caps that are cut back and rounded for clearance purposes. Others do not. I personally would not build a bed that would not accommodate "most" 5ers out there. But that is up to the individual builder.....

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