runaway parents Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 So is there a toy hauler made out there that can handle a 2000lb car ? I know about the boxy looking race car hauler. Looking for something that looks more like an rv than a cracker box. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I had that same question a couple of years ago. We decided to go with a used unit to get the features we wanted without breaking the bank. With the help of this forum, we narrowed it down to Newmar X-Aire and another out of production model, which escapes me. We now have a 2008 X-Air and like it. Garage is 14', plenty for 3-4 motorcycles or a small car. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Nice rig thanks how much weight can the tail gate handle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Here's a link to the brochure. I can't answer that question for sure, but it may be here: https://www.newmarcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2008xafwbrochure.pdf KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Space Craft made one for Rod1. I forget what type of car he hauls. There is more than just weight to worry about, length of garage, approach angle, height, width, tie down locations, how to get out of the car if you cannot open the door due to width, etc... We have one of the cargo type car haulers but we carry a 6000# vehicle in the back. Very hard to find something to carry it. Dave 2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch 2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you! Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/ for much more info on HDT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasFlyer Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Our Weekend Warrior, a 2007 Cr-3905, will haul a Jeep Wrangler. A lot of the bigger Toyhaulers will take a 3,000 pound vehicle. Some folks get led astray thinking that they are limited to 1,500 to 2,000 pounds, because of the ramp door, however you are only going to have one axle on the middle of the ramp at a time. John Southern Nevada 2008 Volvo 780, D13, I-Shift 2017 Keystone Fuzion 420 Toyhauler 2017 Can-Am Maverick X3-RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Our TH'er ramp door is rated for 2K. I have had the Smart Car in the trailer a few times but mostly hauler motorbikes or Polaris RZR 1000 in the garage. Rick & Carey,Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo Toyhauler Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850Brabus Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, VegasFlyer said: Our Weekend Warrior, a 2007 Cr-3905, will haul a Jeep Wrangler. A lot of the bigger Toyhaulers will take a 3,000 pound vehicle. Some folks get led astray thinking that they are limited to 1,500 to 2,000 pounds, because of the ramp door, however you are only going to have one axle on the middle of the ramp at a time. yep one axle at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Unless it's a Smart..... then the whole car fits On the Door! Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 The production toyhauler thing is divided into 2 groups. It is either a cargo/race trailer that happens to have a relatively spartan place to eat and sleep, minimum if any insulation but cargo capacity that is significant. Or, you can have a 5th wheel RV that has all the amenities and happens to have a little open area in the back referred to as the "garage" with minimum hauling capacity. The industry has not decided to bridge the gap between the 2 except on a custom basis, like Spacecraft, which would require a larger(MDT/HDT) tow vehicle. The larger the tow vehicle required, the less choices there are out there. I understand. They have a certain price point, and it is a zero sum game. More amenities means less cargo capacity, especially something like 2500 to 3000 lbs( about the minimum weight of a car except for a Smart) at the rear of the vehicle. Their marketing people have told them they aren't going to sell at all unless the wife is on board, and they think that fancy interiors does that. i don't agree, but that seems to be the case. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Good info keep it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cochran Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I have a 2013 Keystone Fuzion 35 foot per Keystone and a 11foot garage. I put our Smart car in it. Ramp and Garage rated for 2500 lbs. Correction 38 foot not 35! 2019 Thor Chateau 28E on a Ford E450 chassis. Maybe awhile but will get a new picture forgive one up there it is my old rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted March 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Looked at a 40 ft vengeance this weekend this thing was huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasFlyer Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: Unless it's a Smart..... then the whole car fits On the Door! The important part is the center of the span, that is where the weight limit is concerned. Last time I checked, the smart car may be short, but not that short. That is why I said one axle in the middle of the door at a time. John Southern Nevada 2008 Volvo 780, D13, I-Shift 2017 Keystone Fuzion 420 Toyhauler 2017 Can-Am Maverick X3-RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Rod Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Keep in mind that the rated garage capacity includes EVERYTHING in the garage. And I have yet to see anybody that ONLY keeps the vehicle in the garage. All the junk that inevitably collects in that nice big storage space counts toward the garage capacity. Tie downs, tools, that big ladder you hung on the wall, the cabinet you added full of oil and shop supplies, the wife's vacuum cleaner, cases of drinks, you get the idea. Going for the winter?, sure we can pack all the extra luggage and supplies around the car. So don't plan on a 2500# car in a 2500# rated garage in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtchild1 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Runaway Parents, The Fullhouse by DRV (Mobile Suites) has a ramp rated at 3,000 labs and the ZX350 has a 13 1/2 foot garage. They have others with shorter garage spaces and different floor plans. The thing I really like about them is that they have 8,000 lb. More-Ryde axles with a 24,000lb GVWR compared to the usual of between 18-20,000 on most. They are not Spacecraft expensive, but are more expensive than the run of the mill toyboxes on the market today - they are after all, a Mobile Suite! For the best prices I have found on DRV products you can contact Jeff at Castle Country RV in Utah - (801) 360-7829. Good luck in your search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Heiser Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Rolling Retreats will pretty much beat any price on a DRV product and they specialize in special orders. I highly recommend you talk to Alicia there if you are even thinking about going the DRV route. 2000 Kenworth T2000 w/ Cummins N14 and autoshift 2017 DRV Mobile Suite 40KSSB4 with factory mods, dealer mods and personal mods - now in the RV graveyard 2022 DRV Full House MX450 with customized floor plan 2018 Polaris RZR Turbo S (fits in the garage) 2016 Smart Car (fits in the garage or gets flat towed behind the DRV when the RZR is in the garage)My First Solar Install ThreadMy Second Solar Install Thread & Photos and Documents Related to the buildMy MX450's solar, battery and inverter system - my biggest system yet! chadheiser.com West Coast HDT Rally Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 And then there's racingjunk.com...... No air hitch required. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. cob Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Howdy All, I carry the Smart Car and motorcycle with a sidecar in the 18 foot long garage of my toy hauler. The toy hauler is a Voltage 3818, had it for coming up on three years now, comfortable to live in and room enough for my toys. Dave 2001 Peterbilt, 379, Known As "Semi-Sane II", towing a 2014 Voltage 3818, 45 foot long toy hauler crammed full of motorcycles of all types. Visit my photo web site where you will find thousands of photos of my motorcycle wanderings and other aspects of my life, click this link. http://mr-cob.smugmug.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Good info guys thanks have decisions to make build a bed buy welder and equipment to build it or put the money into a trailer that can haul a small car. Might tic off a few neighbor's if I start up a welding project that big in the driveway in front of our house, Haven't had any complaints with the truck parked out there but I don't want to push my luck. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob A Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 We put a Toyota Yaris in our 3914 jayco sysmic, fits nicely . Car weighs 2300 lbs garage and ramp rated for 3000 2014 jayco siesmic 3914 1998 volvo 610, singled short ( bought in 2005) 14 speed volvo tranny 2014 Toyota yaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maveric Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Custom might be your best bet. Chris & Tonya '99 Freightliner FLD120, '01 Wabash Toyhauler (32' garage, 20' LQ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasFlyer Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, maveric said: Custom might be your best bet. If he is looking for 2,000 pounds and most commercially produced Toy Haulers are rated at 3,000 pounds and the doors are rated at 2,000 pounds, why would a custom Toy Hauler be his best bet? Inquiring minds want to know...... John Southern Nevada 2008 Volvo 780, D13, I-Shift 2017 Keystone Fuzion 420 Toyhauler 2017 Can-Am Maverick X3-RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked into this, but just can't stand it. It's easy to find a T/H that, by the numbers, ought to be perfect for hauling toys (har har). But on another thread on this forum, folks are talking about hauling 3-4-5 motorcycles, a side-by-side, the Smart, some whiz-bang bicycle behind the sleeper, and on and on. We have a 395AMP Thunderbolt toyhauler with a 14' garage in a 44' trailer. The ramp door is rated for 3000 lbs, but I can tell you that if you exercise that door at that weight level very much, while it may not break, it WILL delaminate. And then it will break. More that that, the trailer is likely not rated for that amount of weight. Most are rated for between 3250 and 4000 lbs over dry curb weight. So, can you load a Smart? Yep, no issues, but try not to stop and put a 2000# static load on the door/ramp. We carry a CanAm Spyder 3 wheeler (1150#) and a Harley Davidson Street Glide (900#) with the Smart behind the sleeper. With the manufacturer's poor axle placement, weight on the front axle and kingpin is somewhat under the expected load. The 3-4-5 motorcycle loads talked about elsewhere on this thread are based on dual purpose bikes, dirt bikes, and dueling handlebars. If you really want to know if it will work, ask a specific question. Paul Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maveric Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 21 hours ago, VegasFlyer said: If he is looking for 2,000 pounds and most commercially produced Toy Haulers are rated at 3,000 pounds and the doors are rated at 2,000 pounds, why would a custom Toy Hauler be his best bet? Inquiring minds want to know...... IMO, most manufactured toy haulers are not designed to haul a vehicle. Some reasons stated above. Chris & Tonya '99 Freightliner FLD120, '01 Wabash Toyhauler (32' garage, 20' LQ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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