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When I pull a steep grade my engine tends to run hot.

I've been considering replacing my coolant recovery tank that has a small crack near the top that seeps a little. Not enough to drip but I can still see the coolant forming on the 1/2" crack. When the engine is warm and I remove the tank cap I can hear the pressure release so it must be under pressure.

I do know that under 15 PSI it increases the boiling point of the coolant.

With the small crack and seep would it still be able to retain some PSI but not 15 PSI.????

I would think that any "break" in the system would not be able to create any PSI.

Recovery tank is not big dollars but I don't want to do it if it's not going to solve my problem.

This has been an on going problem for many years with my F550 pulling 20,000#.

Tranny temp goes up as well, installed a larger than factory tranny cooler.

One of the biggest problems with the truck IMO is that its a 3 speed with OD.

I think the newer trucks with more speeds to use makes a big difference.

Ant thoughts on this ???

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sounds like you're overworking engine and transmission...shift down a gear or two so they can cool down When really hot I found I had to get my RPMs up to 3000 to bring temp down even in lower gears / Recovery tank has no pressure but if it leaks make sure you keep fluid in it being as the water draws back into your radiator when things cool down

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You might be pushing too hard up the grade. Put your flashers on and downshift to 2nd gear, even 1st if needed. Watch what the big trucks do, they start the grade fast and slow down to a crawl at the top of the grade, this puts the least load on the drive train. Yes, get the crack repaired while you can, the crack will only get worse, it won't fix itself. It's best to keep you vehicle in top condition, someday you could forget to top the recovery tank off with grave consequences.

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Very unlikely that replacing the recovery tank will help with the overheating. Much more likely that a thermostat, water pump, partially clogged radiator or defective fan clutch is the problem. After you've figured out what the real problem is, replace the recovery tank.

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Gas or diesel.

Clutch fan or electric fan.

What year 550.

This info will help with an answer

At the bottom of his post it shows 2001 F 550 Starhauler

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Very unlikely that replacing the recovery tank will help with the overheating. Much more likely that a thermostat, water pump, partially clogged radiator or defective fan clutch is the problem. After you've figured out what the real problem is, replace the recovery tank.

I think shifting down will make a big difference

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I've always been told not to run overdrive when pulling a trailer. My 94 150 has a lock out button. If you really have an overflow tank, there should be no pressure. There must be a cap on the cooling system that allows overflow and then recovery. If it is , not a "recovery tank" then yes it will have pressure and that leak will be loosing coolant. FYI, boiling point is 212F sea level, increasing the pressure in the rad raises that, not lowers.

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If you are running a stock 7.3 Power Stroke, you will need to increase your cooling capacity (think custom multi core radiator with a large tranny cooler) or learn to slow down going up the big hills. I think that year of F550 was rated at roughly 30K GCWR and that was only with the optional towing package. You are right at that maximum with a 20K trailer.

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  1. Is your overheating problem the reason that you have the entire outfit for sale? I would start by making sure that the radiator & transmission cooler are both free of dirt, bugs and obstructions. Then get the cooling system flushed. If that don't work it may be time to have it rodded out or perhaps to upgrade it.

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The "tanks" on Fords are part of the cooling system and are pressurized.

How hot is hot? I dont think a rise in temps is unusual.

One thing common to both engine and tranny temps is air flow. Down shifting reduces EGTs and can increase air flow if the cooling fan clutch is working properly.

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Kirk, yes the truck and trailer was for sale back in 2009 when we bought our dream house but that was a short dream. We had it 4 years and decided that we enjoyed the fulltime life as a RV'er much better and have been back on the road since 2013.

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The truck has had a rad flush a few years ago and I had a larger tranny cooler installed for a 6.0 PSD.

Engine temps on a big pull will get in the red and I have to pull over and let it cool down.

Tranny temps climbs and almost reaches the red but hasn't since I put on larger cooler.

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I'm tired of this problem and would like to get it resolved.

I'm thinking on a new radiator but I hate to buy and install if that's not the problem.

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Engine and tranny temps are fine until I come to a long and steep hill to climb.

It has improved since the flush but it still gets too hot, it just takes a little longer

for me to pull over and let her cool down.

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George, believe me I down shift. I only have a total of 4 speeds and I'm in 2nd gear on some of the larger hills and running 35 MPH.

I know my weight is the biggest factor, I'm real close to the max 30,000 combined but it is what it is.

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Kirk, yes the truck and trailer was for sale back in 2009 when we bought our dream house but that was a short dream. We had it 4 years and decided that we enjoyed the fulltime life as a RV'er much better and have been back on the road since 2013.

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The truck has had a rad flush a few years ago and I had a larger tranny cooler installed for a 6.0 PSD.

Engine temps on a big pull will get in the red and I have to pull over and let it cool down.

Tranny temps climbs and almost reaches the red but hasn't since I put on larger cooler.

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I'm tired of this problem and would like to get it resolved.

I'm thinking on a new radiator but I hate to buy and install if that's not the problem.

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Engine and tranny temps are fine until I come to a long and steep hill to climb.

It has improved since the flush but it still gets too hot, it just takes a little longer

for me to pull over and let her cool down.

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Do you hear the fan clutch turn on when the temp starts to go up?

If you don't hear it you have 1 of 2 problems.

 

The clutch is no good or the radiator is dirty or has bent fins.

 

I towed for years with 2001 7.3 12,000 lb trailer and you could always hear the clutch turn on.

 

As far as the trans temp it is normal for them to run hot towing on a hot day even with no hill. You want to keep an eye on that and when you are starting to getting too high all you need to do is pull over, put it in park and run it about half throttle till the temp comes down. It will also work at idle but takes longer to cool. Do not turn the engine off or the temp go up and over heat the trans.

 

When the trans gets too hot the first thing you will see is a leak at the front pump seal.

 

Hope this helps

 

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My 5.9 has had me below 35 towing probably 16K.... I try to arrange my traveling to hit steep grades in the morning while its cool and end up in the lower gears, I can normally pass trucks on a grade but not very fast. If she starts heating up just drop down a gear and run your rpms where its comfortable an put your flashers on for traffic coming up behind you.. What gear ratio is the rear end ? mine are 4:10s

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 Timing will affect temperature/advanced to far will cause heat,. Bigger exhaust might help, or it could be a combination of all the things listed...Like where to start ?

Jim Spence

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 7:58 AM, travelinbob said:

Another thought, don't get me wrong, I don't mind the 35 MPH, I'm in no hurry, it's the overheating that bothers me.

35 MPH is pretty fast for going up a steep hill, why the hurry?? My Chevy 3500 climbed Donners Pass a couple of years ago hauling 25k lbs and started over heating. I realized I was running about 35 MPH which was to much for the Duramax/Allison. Next time I do that pass, I will slow down to 25 MPH and take my time. These type of hills represent about .5% of my pulling miles, so it's not a problem to slow down for them.

Greg

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Replace/repair the overflow-pressurized tank. You'd be surprised at how that crack affects radiator pressure. You may remove your tank, clean thoroughly; contact an auto  body repair shop about having the crack permanently plastic- welded together. What is actually does is melt the plastic filler rod into the tank material. The only thing the shop requires is to know the type plastic from which the tank is made.

Whoever suggested checking out the cooling fan for proper operation was right on point.

Begin with the cheapest and easiest to replace/repair when chasing a problem, the expensive stuff comes later, and improves mamma disposition.

 

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