Yarome Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 If anyone has a manual fresh water recycling system.. or anyone planning to install one.. these little electric solenoids valves are perfect for upgrading to "push button" and just had a 26% price drop. $7.99 delivered from Amazon. There are cheaper ones out there, but these are really put together well and the lowest price I've seen them go. JFYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmac9 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yarome, I am still learning the lingo and uses for all the things on an RV...can you explain what this is or why this is needed so I can decide to add it to my system. Thanks and forgive my ignorance on the subject!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 can you explain what this is or why this is needed so I can decide to add it to my system. Thanks and forgive my ignorance on the subject!!! Not at all.. not at all. It's mainly for those hardcore weirdo boondocker types (not me of course) as a way to conserve a fresh water supply when using hot water. Instead of trying to "trap" the cold water in a tub or bucket while you wait for the hot water to make an appearance, you run a return hose back to your fresh water tank somewhere between your water heater and as close as possible to your hot water fixtures outlet. Opening the valve.. cold water in your water line is diverted back to your fresh water tank as your water line is being "charged" with hot water... then closed to redirect the hot water to your fixture. Working a manual valve can be a little inconvenient digging inside a cabinet or such, so using an electrical selenoid, a switch can be more conveniently located for ease of operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 With the solenoid in place, it should be pretty easy to automate the setup with a temperature sensor near the point of use to close the valve. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I probably should have added that they work equally as well for air and fuel applications, and that they are "closed" when non-powered. They can be used in any number of creative applications. My trailer has an enclosed underbelly so getting at hoses and such is a real pain. I put 2 of these on my outdoor shower lines so they remain closed off from the water system, but can be turned on "remotely" when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmac9 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Gotcha!! Thanks for the explanation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontrump Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 If anyone has a manual fresh water recycling system.. or anyone planning to install one.. these little electric solenoids valves are perfect for upgrading to "push button" and just had a 26% price drop. $7.99 delivered from Amazon. There are cheaper ones out there, but these are really put together well and the lowest price I've seen them go. JFYI 1/4 inch is too small need 1/2 pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 1/4 inch is too small need 1/2 pipe Actually, a 1/4" valve is more than sufficient at the relatively low pressures and water volume you're talking about in an RV. Think of it more as a "bleed valve". A 1/2" selenoid valve cost more than double, weighs more, is larger.. hence more difficult to install in relatively cramped spaces, and requires more "juice" to actuate. On top of that.. any ol' 1/4" lightweight (cheap) off the shelf tubing from your local HIC is easier to run back to your fresh water tank. PEX and such isn't required since the "drain" line is never pressurized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tednruthy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 With the solenoid in place, it should be pretty easy to automate the setup with a temperature sensor near the point of use to close the valve. DUTCH, Have you or has anyone built this temperature sensor idea into this recycle loop. With it setup to recycle the water until a nice hot temperature is reached one would be able to really save on the water being 'run down the drain' to get the hot water desired from a faucet or the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gell Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I removed our ice maker to make room for more food in freezer of our residential fridge. Otherwise, I wonder if this would have made it easier to winterize the water line and icemaker? Jim 2001 Volvo 770, Detroit 60 Series, Gen 2 Autoshift Passenger assist elevator to enter cab - for when we need it, or sell it? '05 Travel Supreme Select 40 RLQSO 5th wheel 2016 smart car We started full timing on December 1st 2014 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness - Mark Twain Not all that wander are lost - J. R. R. Tolkien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 DUTCH, Have you or has anyone built this temperature sensor idea into this recycle loop. With it setup to recycle the water until a nice hot temperature is reached one would be able to really save on the water being 'run down the drain' to get the hot water desired from a faucet or the shower. I haven't setup a recycle loop since we seldom boondock anymore, but the thought of automating one brought out the "techy" in me. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I removed our ice maker to make room for more food in freezer of our residential fridge. Otherwise, I wonder if this would have made it easier to winterize the water line and icemaker? Jim My ice maker feed line is self-draining when I remove it from the solenoid controlling the fill function. Ice maker does not require winterizing as it lives in a frozen environment. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gell Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 My ice maker feed line is self-draining when I remove it from the solenoid controlling the fill function. Ice maker does not require winterizing as it lives in a frozen environment. My solonoid controlling the fill function was not accessible without pulling the fridge out, which is somewhat of a PITA. I am not sure, but maybe an electric valve would provide a means to drain or blow the water out with air without having to unbolt and pull out the fridge. Perhaps others with an ice maker already have an easy way to winterize, or don't need to. 2001 Volvo 770, Detroit 60 Series, Gen 2 Autoshift Passenger assist elevator to enter cab - for when we need it, or sell it? '05 Travel Supreme Select 40 RLQSO 5th wheel 2016 smart car We started full timing on December 1st 2014 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness - Mark Twain Not all that wander are lost - J. R. R. Tolkien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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