kimlarsen Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 bit of bad-news rv burned up think ins is buying new one or covering some of the cost of replacement. very interesting to show up and see fire department. the trailer i had was heavy 23k plus loaded pulling donner summit or bishop pass proved extremely difficult. so new trailer looking at will be bigger and heavier, FYI i lost and argument to replace the existing with same. so i think were going to upgrade to an HDT. My wife and kids Rodeo so there gone a quite a bit and its not like you can pull over going up bishop pass. HDT is only way. Found a sterling day cab little bit unproductive for us at this moment.Seats two. I read an article by Jack Mayer and referenced singling a truck and the cost associated with it. I'm in California at the moment and looking for a reference to single a truck. it seems to me much more feasible to single a tandem and go that route. if anyone has a reference or direction to go please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill and Judy LeMosy Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 An information source Jack may have mentioned in the article is RVhaulers.ca. Greg's site has a good many videos on building a HDT hauler. Great site, and Greg is a helpful, quality guy. Here's the link: http://rvhaulers.ca Judy LeMosy 2007 New Horizons Summit 38' / 2001 610 Volvo with Smart Car on bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 There is a bunch of information on my website - link in my signature. I'm not sure where you read that info from - there have been a number of magazine articles that I have written on HDTs....or it may have been on my website. Take a look at Gregg's site an watch the video playlist of the conversion of my truck. I think it will be educational. LINK Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Herrin in Kilgore Texas is the firm I and a number of others have used. Prices are 3 yrs old but to single cost b/w 2-3k. A deck for the Smart around 16 >18k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 There is a wealth of knowledge already dispensed in the Resources section. I would only mention that some trucks single more easily than others. That is a major reason for the popularity of the Volvos. You also have a choice in singling short, long or mid. Very few folks single mid way between the tandem axles, but it is done and offers some advantages. Most folks single short, though I singled long as I wanted deck space. The area where the wheels were are now large storage bins with close to the amount of storage our 5ver's basement has. If I was able to choose my truck by styling I'd have a long nosed Pete with tall stacks or a Kenworth. However, I'm quite happy with a Volvo 730. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 You also have a choice in singling short, long or mid. Very few folks single mid way between the tandem axles, but it is done and offers some advantages. Most folks single short, Singling mid is actually very popular. It allows a deck long enough to carry a Smart car without overloading the rear axle or unloading the front axle too much. It's about a $2-3k option at places like Herrin Haulers. It makes most trucks look more aesthetically pleasing to the eye as well. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 " Very few folks single mid way between the tandem axles," Really, where did that information come from? X2 with what A&J said. My setup works fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Yes, lots of people are singling mid these days. It costs a little more in labor to redrill the holes. But in the grand scheme of things it is not a lot additional. You need to look carefully at what you will carry and how it will affect weight distribution. It may not be an issue for YOUR load, but then again it may be. You don't want surprises. Let me know if anyone gets a truck singled (now) for $2K...because that is just not going to happen in my opinion. I don't see how it can be done properly for that. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar274 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 We Singled Short on 6/17/15 for $2482. This included new Brake Chambers. The Material Cost was $964, the Labor cost for Driveshaft work, reposition # 3 Axle and alignment was $1460. This shop specializes in Springs & Drivelines, so they built and Balanced the Shaft. There is only 2 holes to drill. Bob&Kay 2012 VNL730 I Shift D13 2.47 ratio 2018 Mobile Suites 40 kssb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Radar274 You should give contact information for the shop for those interested and have it added to the HDT resource page if you were satisfied with their work. "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Jack I got a quote of $1800 in Houston at a business the Volvo dealership sent me too. This was a few months back. That was singling mid also. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar274 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Martin Spring & Driveline Inc. Kalamazoo Mi. 269 345-1633. They have been around a long time and did a great job. The owner Steve was very interested in our project. He was thinking of building a HDT for themselves. They are involved in racing and have a fab shop as well. Bob Bob&Kay 2012 VNL730 I Shift D13 2.47 ratio 2018 Mobile Suites 40 kssb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar274 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 PS I also kept the #2 axle and wheels for that price, they were Polished and new recapped. Bob&Kay 2012 VNL730 I Shift D13 2.47 ratio 2018 Mobile Suites 40 kssb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Those are very good prices. Did they include replacing parts other than brake cans? And $1800 for a singled mid is almost unbelievable.(I believe you, but if you do it I would like to see the final price.) Both those prices are the same or less than most frame shops would do the work for 10 years ago. I'm assuming that they completed the ABS work as well, including reprogramming everything so VEST still works properly? Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I spoke with owner at length about this. This is there primary work along with beds and such. They do drive shafts, complete job. I asked about cans and he said they replaced them. Company is Lecolift in Houston. He also quoted me 3k on a flat bed, includes sand blasting and paint. This is 3/16 decking also. Dove tailing would be extra. That was on the 780 I was considering. My plans have changed and plan on getting a factory single T600 around first of the year. Should have some time off then. May still use them for bed but the moduler design currenty being born is interesting. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar274 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Had to reprogram single axle @ Volvo. 150.00 Invoice for Single was as follows Brake Chambers 130.00 6 ea. 3/8 line connectors 89.94 5 ea. 3/8 line ends 54.95 6 ea. 3/4x3 Bolts 51.00 1 ea. End Yoke 217.00 1 nut hardware kit 22.32 1 Pinion Seal 30.82 1 U-joint 105.00 1 Weld Yoke 187.00 Other Shop Supplies 75.00 Total 963.92 Labor Shorten & Balance Driveshaft 150.00 Remove #2 Axle and #3 in place 1080.00 Redrive Aligment 230.00 Labor Total 1460.00 Tax 57.83 Total 2481.75 This shop does all kinds of work on Gliders, Grain trucks, Silage trucks and Builds Decks for all kinds of applications. Bob&Kay 2012 VNL730 I Shift D13 2.47 ratio 2018 Mobile Suites 40 kssb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Glenn, why did Sweeten Volvo send you somewhere else? They did mine in-house, in the body shop. And reprogrammed the ABS brakes the right way too. I have no idea what the break down was, but I spent about $6500 there. Sand blasted and painted the frame before the bed was built, fixed (yeah, it didn't last) the body cancer on the door, replaced all 4 shocks, a cab airbag and some other stuff along with singling. Heck, they even sold my commercial hitch and the axle for me. MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Don't know but said they didn't do that work. Sent it all to Lecolift. I was surprised because I remember you stating yours done there. They no longer have any used units on website either. Just new ones 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimlarsen Posted November 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Wow thank you all for the responses very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Don't know but said they didn't do that work. Sent it all to Lecolift. I was surprised because I remember you stating yours done there. They no longer have any used units on website either. Just new ones I'd be scared to say no to a big guy with a 9mm on his hip And a 2 liter bottle of DR PEPPER in his hand. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Mine was about 2700 plus the cost to reprogram the computer and abs. Those last 2's cost escapes me. The original cost was 2700 that include installation of the Jackaloppee and the air hitch. Only problem, the singled it long by mistake so herrin re singled it mid. He farmed it out to a local outfit in Kilgore who charged 2000$ US. In my case with 12k front axle, my concern was one of possibly overloading singled long. Not fond of the look either. Load on a 3k lb deck, 2200 lb car plus contents of storage boxes and a generator and the lack of taking weight off the front axle with the trailer on the hitch. This was an easy decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Don't know but said they didn't do that work. Sent it all to Lecolift. I was surprised because I remember you stating yours done there. They no longer have any used units on website either. Just new ones That's weird. I'm gonna have to call Eli in the body shop and see whats going on. I'd be scared to say no to a big guy with a 9mm on his hip And a 2 liter bottle of DR PEPPER in his hand. The scary part is when the Dr. Pepper bottle runs dry, BH MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldRush Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Where in California are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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